WTF are you on - it's not Leeds fans that picked the England squad





All players start out as not being "international class" they have to be tried out and prove themselves at that level - some flourish some don't (even excellent club players like Long)

He run a lot further, tackled more, carried the ball more - all props jobs. Meanwhile you invent dubious statistics like tackle bust per run, this favours players who don't run much (ie Bailey when he goes hiding). Using your made up style of statistics then Coley is literally infinitely better when it come to clean breaks per game/run/season or whatever. Your cherry picking is why stats get discredited.

And the other thing is there are far better candidates than Coley who have missed out. You will have real trouble inventing stats that show Bailey is better than Lynch, LMS, Wood, etc. In fact he is worse than Scott Wheeldon in everything but offloads and there aren't many people saying he deserves an England spot.

Ahh, so what you were relying on is that we would all ignore the fact that Coley played five more games than Bailey and the obvious effect that would have on his statistics, and not use a like for like comparison. Fair enough.

Really? and you are relying on the fact that you have studiously ignored every other point made. Fair enough.

my thoughts exactly, does that make us both tools as well?

You havent made any other points, just the same flawed point again using different examples.

Bailey wont make the 17 if he does he will be on the bench Wilkin and Bailey likely not to be in the same 17 if either gets in plenty of other good players in the squad who play their postition

Bailey not as good as Morley,Peacock,Carvell etc.
Wilkin might make the bench

16 pages of Wilkin v Bailey around 14 pages of content arguing the justification of Baileys behaviour and credibility of being a decent prop. Whilst Wilkin has almost being forgotten on commenting on baileys behaviour AFTER the final whistle of the match.
Can we assume Baileys antics is the acceptable norm for Bailey himself, and the RFL will always adjudge that he has a good disciplinary record. I reckon we should have a Bailey Weekend and every player behaves in the same manner, knowing that we wo'nt expect to see much rugby.

more interestingly after 16 pages we still havent got to the bottom of what Wilkin was actually bitching about.

according to a leeds player i spoke to this week he said " ryan doesn't help himself at times, indeed its sometimes hard to defend him but on this occasion he did nothing but celebrate and certainly never confronted anyone"

Lets face it. Neither of them are worth 16 words, never mind 16 pages.