I wouldnt claim to know the ins and outs of the Broncos/Quins academy structure through the years. I know Rugby league in London is growing and we are begining to see the fruits of that. But other clubs and other people are putting the effort in too. What the Quins have to do is sell themselves to the people of London. Its no good for London if they bring these players through and they just move up north To Whippet Ville for better money and prospects in the game.

After 30 or so years of Pro rugby in london we should not only have a successfull club, We should have multiple successful clubs.

800 at PSG in 1997. 2nd lowest was Cruasders at Neath last year. Both were bizarre fixtures played away from usual home stadiums, neither should have ever been allowed to take place.

Lowest genuine home crowd AFAIK was 1,200 at Halifax in 2003, certainly that's the lowest since the early years of SL. Yet some idiot on this thread thinks they are 'more deserving' than Quins, based solely on the fact that they are a small Northern town.

I believe that it was either Crusaders v Quinsin 2010 (1,122) or a PSG game in their last year when there were about 400 fans....

Try walk to the tube, wait for the tube, get the tbe, get to Waterloo, navigate the station, wait for a train, get the train to Twickenham (making sure it's the fast train), walk to the stadium. It takes me an hour to get to the Stoop from Zone1 (Central) North London, and it takes a similar time in the car. I'd go more often than just to Leeds/Quins games if it took less of a chunk of of the day, or if the club meant something to the community I live in.

It's not what you could call local: You could get from Leeds to Salford in far less time.

People forget how big London is. No stadiums are convenient to everyone, but The Stoop is only convenient to those in Richmond/Twickenham and the suburbs around. In other words, the only area of London where RU, as opposed to football, is widely popular. So we're competing with two sports instead of one.

And yes, Broncostilidie, I am a lazy Northerner.

pathetic crowd

if ever a game between these 2 clubs got 8000 then youd know RL had finally broken into the hard markets.

but a pathetic crowd, cant defend it as much as id like too

the minimum crowd for SL clubs should be 5000, its not working in london re crowds

but on the junior side of things and kids playing RL it is so there is potential there

Fax aren't ready for SL. They lack a backer with serious money. Harlequins will be just fine so long as the backers keep shovelling money at them. ESL needs a London club. By all accounts BskyB demand their presence. So, let's not panic about poor crowds in London. For now, it's irrelevant. If it wasn't for London there would be no Sky-backed Super League.

That wasn't too difficult - thinking about the game before my club. I feel cleansed. God bless Super League.

Says a St "ANZAC" Helens follower












You just couldn't make this stuff up!

Trying make points where none exist.

quins/crusaders total waste of time. argument over.

Fellow lazy Northerner, admittedly one who lives ten mins walk from Waterloo. But even when I didn't I never thought of it as the back of beyond. I'd say a tube and train ride is pretty standard for getting anywhere in London that's not the middle of town. Quins have plenty of problems but I honestly don't think where they are is one of them. It's a great ground in many respects and the potential is there to make it a great showcase for Super League.

It takes my blossom 4 hours to carry me from Stockport to Halifax and costs me thirty apples a journey. Try doing that every fortnight. Before they lifted the cobbles in 1998 it used to take me (or rather blossom"s dad) 6 hours.

You top-hatters don't know yer born.

obvioulsy its the RFL's fault. ive been telling lewis for years now we need to have stargates at all RL grounds. thus eliminating the need for people to travel other than getting to and from there own teams stadium.
lewis however is adamant we only install one at headquarters and then only install others in Dublin, Toulouse, cardiff and Rome in anticipation of the introduction in 2018 of Roman Raiders and Dublin Diehards

This old chestnut again


Regardless of where the club play their games, if you live on the other side of town it will take you an hour +to get there......the point is, that if you're a fan of the club or just a fan of the game, then you make the effort to get to the match.
I think Twickenham station is served by 20 trains an hour.....why not read a paper on the way there?
I Know of one fan who spends over 3 hrs travelling to home games........
...bottom line is if you are a fan you will find a way to get there........the problem isn't the stadium, the location or the name....its the fact that nobody knows the club exists. There has been little or no marketing to date and the few efforts last year were terribly thought out........serious marketing means serious spend....something the club seem retisent to do.

This is from someone who thinks the RFL got £500k from the Welsh Tourist Board, then paid £500k to host MM, yet adds the two numbers up so say 'we made a million!'

If you are going to belittle Halifax based upon their contribution to the game versus that of Quins, then you really are more of a clueless deluded fool that I took you for.

Actually, I'd go one further and call you ignorant.

Lucky for Paul Simon that he didn't have one, otherwise he'd have missed out on a hit

Then the RFL and the other clubs should cough up , for the benefit of the ' game ' , I'm sure the other SL club owners would have no problem with it

St "ANZAC" ?

I seem to have missed your point

a valid point, well made.
Can't wait for post number 9

This is true. There are London kids who watch like and watch SL who think Broncos just packed in. No thought has been given to how to share the Quins brand successfully, so we have a team that plays 'rugby' and looks like Quins RU and gets called 'Quins', and surprise surprise, people presume its the Quins they know.

he's spot on - 1766 is embarassing,isn't it ?

ah but if this had come to pass he would have needed to gain access to the stargate at naughton park rather than use widnes train station, then it would not have been called 'homeward bound' but something like 'wilderspool bound' or 'odsal bound' as the theoretical RL stargate network only allows for travel between stadia.

Got me there

Is it Crusaders V Harlequins, 6/8/2010 - Att: 1,122 ?

Kick 'em both out!

And do it before they need bailing out again.

They offer nothing to SL.

and to think im coming up with this without drugs


and getting back on topic, lay of quins! the last time i was dragged along by some wire friends to a game down there i had a very entertaining encounter with a very 'interesting' Kiwi girl. she was great


so im all for quins really.

Nope....I believe that there were a couple of 3 figure crowds near the end of PSG's spell in SL.






Please list the times, dates and amounts that Fulhamcrusaderbroncoquins have received in the form of bail outs......

...really? How do you reckon SL would look without Harlequins RL and the 1.2 million each club get from SKY?

You best tell the people running the club that then, im sure then wouldnt bother if then didnt know their projections etc and what budgets they have worked out if they get into SL.
As for the crowd, it doesnt really matter as long as they have an owner willing to bank roll them. Its when he has had enough, that the problems will start. Would SL teams accept smaller tv revenue to keep and fund a team in the capital?