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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"BBc Interactive is now reporting club official Ian Roberts as saying that it's 99% certain that there'll be RL at the Racecourse next year. Sound of flatcappers weeping into their flat, warm ale as they kick their whippets
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Excellent news , hopefully there will shortly be an announcement from the RFL telling us how much they are putting into them to keep them going
But there wont will there , what will happen is the RFL budget for ' development ' work in Wales has just increased by 800 K for 2011
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"BBc Interactive is now reporting club official Ian Roberts as saying that it's 99% certain that there'll be RL at the Racecourse next year. '"
Does he say anything about beyond next year?
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"BBc Interactive is now reporting club official Ian Roberts as saying that it's 99% certain that there'll be RL at the Racecourse next year. Sound of flatcappers weeping into their flat, warm ale as they kick their whippets
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Funny how some of these clubs can go from 'no comment' to all happy & dancing after a meeting with the RFL
Nothing against Cru and hope all gets sorted for fans but lately the RFL are being shown up for the sham they are!
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| Quote ="J20"Funny how some of these clubs can go from 'no comment' to all happy & dancing after a meeting with the RFL
Nothing against Cru and hope all gets sorted for fans but [dellately[/del the RFL are being shown up for the sham they are!'"
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"BBc Interactive is now reporting club official Ian Roberts as saying that it's 99% certain that =#FF0000there'll be RL at the Racecourse next year. Sound of flatcappers weeping into their flat, warm ale as they kick their whippets
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| Quote ="Starbug"Excellent news , hopefully there will shortly be an announcement from the RFL telling us how much they are putting into them to keep them going
But there wont will there , what will happen is the RFL budget for ' development ' work in Wales has just increased by 800 K for 2011'" If you have any evidence to support your allegations against the RFL then please share it. If not, then I would ask you to edit your post and remove these unsubstantiated claims.
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| So far during their two years in SL the club have had players deported over illegal visas, are being taken to court over non-investment in promised pensions and are now the subject of a winding-up order. For me, the club can't seem to run itself to any decent standard and will inevitabely collapse, it's just that the longer the RFL allow them to remain in SL the more damage their demise will do to the game.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"So far during their two years in SL the club have had players deported over illegal visas, are being taken to court over non-investment in promised pensions and are now the subject of a winding-up order. For me, the club can't seem to run itself to any decent standard and will inevitabely collapse, it's just that the longer the RFL allow them to remain in SL the more damage their demise will do to the game.'"
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| Quote ="Starbug"Excellent news , hopefully there will shortly be an announcement from the RFL telling us how much they are putting into them to keep them going
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| Quote ="GSF"Flatcapper.'"
I'm not sure if that's meant to be an insult? As my username suggests, I'm actually from Nottingham, which is not renound for the fashion of flat caps.
It does seem rather unfair that anyone pointing out the truths about the seemingly sacred, but failing, club are simply dismissed as relics from some other generation.
I'm actually a supporter of expansion in the game, but the expansion clubs need to run themselves properly. Unfortunately, Crusaders have not managed to do this.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"I'm not sure if that's meant to be an insult? As my username suggests, I'm actually from Nottingham, which is not renound for the fashion of flat caps.
It does seem rather unfair that anyone pointing out the truths about the seemingly sacred, but failing, club are simply dismissed as relics from some other generation.
I'm actually a supporter of expansion in the game, but the expansion clubs need to run themselves properly. Unfortunately, Crusaders have not managed to do this.'" He appears to be a Widnes fan, I think he was trying to be funny.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"I'm not sure if that's meant to be an insult? As my username suggests, I'm actually from Nottingham, which is not renound for the fashion of flat caps.
It does seem rather unfair that anyone pointing out the truths about the seemingly sacred, but failing, club are simply dismissed as relics from some other generation.
I'm actually a supporter of expansion in the game, but the expansion clubs need to run themselves properly. Unfortunately, Crusaders have not managed to do this.'"
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| Quote ="j.c"get use to it mate
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| Quote ="headhunter"Get used to it from stupid Widnes and Leigh fans who think they are making some sort of funny and original joke.'"
Widnes! Widnes! Widnes!
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news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 149935.stm
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news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 149935.stm
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| Quote ="headhunter"Get used to it from stupid Widnes and Leigh fans who think they are making some sort of funny and original joke.'"
Get used to the issue that most of us 'flatcappers' said that The Crusaders were too short in the teeth to be a viable club in the time given to them by the RFL.
Fail to plan = plan to fail.
I have no desire to see any club fail but quite simply Crusaders are not ready for this - it's too soon and it simply smacks of desperation by the RFL in them practically forcing the club into Superleague. It's no wonder this great sport isn't taken seriously - the news if Crusaders do go under will be met by a massive shrug of the shoulders by Joe Public.
For all their fans, I sincerely hope it works out for them.
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| Quote ="Redchemic"Get used to the issue that most of us 'flatcappers' said that The Crusaders were too short in the teeth to be a viable club in the time given to them by the RFL.
Fail to plan = plan to fail.
I have no desire to see any club fail but quite simply Crusaders are not ready for this - it's too soon and it simply smacks of desperation by the RFL in them practically forcing the club into Superleague. It's no wonder this great sport isn't taken seriously - the news if Crusaders do go under will be met by a massive shrug of the shoulders by Joe Public.
For all their fans, I sincerely hope it works out for them.'" I'm assuming you hold similar views about Wakefield.
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| It is a sad time for all Crusaders fans and also the sport in general. But the bottom line is the club is a shambles off the field. Apart from the fact they are in Wales they would not be considered for a franchise. The quote on a previous post of fail to plan, plan to fail is very appropriate. But they are where they are so good luck for the sake of the punters who put their hard earned cash into a blatantly corrupt organisation. But, for me, call it quits and come back when you can do yourselves justice.
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| Quote ="headhunter"I'm assuming you hold similar views about Wakefield.'"
Pretty much yes in the fact that I wish them no ill.
They have, however a long established history in the sport and have had ample time and opportunity to get their house in order bearing in mind all that's gone before - including the misfortune that befell or was created by my own club.
They've had time, Crusaders haven't. Wakey should be viable, Crusaders couldn't be in the time they've had.
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| Wrexham Village have run the club a lot better than Samuels and it seems pretty clear a lot of the debt was run up by previous mismanagement by the team in charge whilst the club were at Bridgend. Tell me a club of our size that doesn't have their worries outside of the top 4 earning clubs or so. Hand on heart I feel Wrexham Village can make a great go of this club.
If the club get through this I think the signs are there that we will thrive at Wrexham but it is a big if. Since being at Wrexham the club have been trying to control and pay off the various debts that were accumulated whilst the club were in Bridgend but the HMRC winding up order has hit us for six. The crisis meeting in the next few days should shed some light on affairs.
I really do hope that if we do come out of this the other side people see us as the club that finished 8th and in the play off's in Super League as well as the team that averaged larger crowds than some more established clubs during our first season in a new town. Also keep in mind the fact a large proportion of the European Cup winning welsh team that overcame France last month would not have played rugby league to any standard close to that which they have done without Crusaders rugby league and Scorpions which came as a direct result of the formation of Celtic Crusaders and the move. Some will want to see us as the club that had saga after financial saga but I really think if we can ride this out we will come out the other side a stronger and better run club on a sure footing. That is all.
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| Of course you will have the usual vultures circling and gloating in another clubs misfortune but that is inevitable and will always happen to a certain extent.
We're still alive and kicking at the moment and the club chairman has been stated as 99% certain rugby league will be at the Racecourse next season. I would have preferred him to have said Super League but I'm happy for any shred of hope at the moment.
As I have said previously the difference between the way the club is run in Wrexham and how it was down in Bridgend is World's apart. I am in no doubt who is greatly at fault for the current predicament (although Wrexham FC fans don't trust the current lot one bit). I just hope Wrexham Village have a chance to establish the club they started to drag back to it's feet. Fingers and everything else crossed.
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| Quote ="headhunter"If you have any evidence to support your allegations against the RFL then please share it. If not, then I would ask you to edit your post and remove these unsubstantiated claims.'"
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"why?'"
Quite simply because as the saying goes
Honesty is the best policy
Our sport was built on the need for honesty , that is why we split from the Union
Unfortunatly the RFL prefer to ' pretend ' things rather than actually face up , state what they want and explain why they have to do the things they do
They are weak and childish in their approach to clubs , their owners and fans
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| Quote ="headhunter"Get used to it from stupid Widnes and Leigh fans who think they are making some sort of funny and original joke.'"
No , you are wrong , we all predicted these problems 2 /3 years ago , you didn't need to be a rocket surgeon to see it , it was plain for anybody with half a brain cell
So you are calling us ' stupid ' , look in the mirror my friend if that s what you are looking for
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| Quote ="Redchemic"Pretty much yes in the fact that I wish them no ill.
They have, however a long established history in the sport and have had ample time and opportunity to get their house in order bearing in mind all that's gone before - including the misfortune that befell or was created by my own club.
They've had time, Crusaders haven't. Wakey should be viable, Crusaders couldn't be in the time they've had.'"
We've had the same amount of time as all other clubs currently in Super League.
At the last round of franchises we were one of the best 12 applicants and were awarded a 3 year license the same as all other Super League clubs. Franchising was brought in to get clubs to 'get their house in order' wasn't it? If so, what relevance has any amount of time before that got?
Along with Crusaders and all other clubs we will be judged on the progress which we've made since the last round of franchises (not any time before then) and if we're one of the best 12 then we will be in again.
I hope Crusaders get things sorted as I wish all teams well. It's hard times at the moment and RL is no different to many other teams in many other sports struggling. As fans of the game we should all be getting behind teams instead of trying to stick the boot in when they're down, it's a sad mentality in the game though unfortunately!
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