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| Quote ="dick scratcher"The RFL simply cannot afford to finance 2 French teams.'"
you really don't have a clue. Do you?
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| Quote ="Dico"Course you do, Myler.
And it's okay, I readily give to the needy and after last years displays, Widnes are needy
Enjoy turning up to watch Cullens barmy gameplans and Kevin Penny/Steve Pickersgill, depending on how we go you might get a few more of our droppings'"
Yes, the old [i'lets make myself appear clever by patronising someone and taking sarcasm to a new low'[/i ploy. This is an old trick, and decidedly over-used on the VT - mostly by people who are actually morons.
Won something at last, have we?
Getting all over excited and carried away by your little appearance at Wembley?
This makes poor old Widnes desperate then, eh?
I suppose you must have missed Widnes winning a trophy last season then?
[size=59*Well, might as well join in with the general attitude here. [/size
Quote ="dally messenger"debate on the merits of toulose > whinging from leigh fans about the role of franchising > widnes fans talking about widnes
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This Widnes fan just wanted to talk about a certain Salford player, who's name has yet to be revealed by belgianxiii. It seems to be everybody else that wants to talk about Widnes; including people I wasn’t even in the discussion with.
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| Quote ="Pepe"This Widnes fan just wanted to talk about a certain Salford player, who's name has yet to be revealed by belgianxiii.'"
Hello Pepe, I expect you are going to tell me that Myler isn't a Salford product, okay, my mistake I'm not a Salford fan and the BBC may not be the best source for information (apparently our academy doesn't exist according to the SLS).
As for TOXIII, they will be grumpy about the recent talk about SF, especially since they were passed over in favor of Catalans last time. I reckon they are still the best option for the next step into France.
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| Quote ="Starbug"' Big up ' Toulouse all you want , but if you dont have a good reason to displace somebody to make way for them , then you ' bigging up ' lacks credence
What you are saying is ' sod who we damage ' lets stick in a French club no matter what
If that is what you mean then say so'"
well i guess at least you are discussing the thread matter now
so what evidence do you have that Les Cats entry into SL has damaged the game?
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| Quote ="belgianxiii"Hello Pepe, I expect you are going to tell me that Myler isn't a Salford product, okay, my mistake I'm not a Salford fan and the BBC may not be the best source for information (apparently our academy doesn't exist according to the SLS).
As for TOXIII, they will be grumpy about the recent talk about SF, especially since they were passed over in favor of Catalans last time. I reckon they are still the best option for the next step into France.'"
past over twice, once for PSG and then last time
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| To are the logical choice for the next French franchise, but they have to show that they will take the plunge and not play it as safe as they did last year in the Championship. Possibly it was the Catalans' plan for their years in the LER that got them the nod.
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| Quote ="belgianxiii"To are the logical choice for the next French franchise, but they have to show that they will take the plunge and not play it as safe as they did last year in the Championship. Possibly it was the Catalans' plan for their years in the LER that got them the nod.'"
not too fussed myself on their performances on the field now, more with the business plan
Les Cats came last ? in their first year in SL and look at them now.
RL in France is a slam dunk. build it and they will come
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| Quote ="dally messenger"past over twice, once for PSG and then last time'"
Could say three times, as Celtic got in ahead of them for franchises.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"well i guess at least you are discussing the thread matter now
so what evidence do you have that Les Cats entry into SL has damaged the game?'"
I was discussing the thread matter on page 1 , I asked the same question then as now
Les Cats entry has not damaged the game , when they entered we didn't have a club being thrown out of SL , we had clubs relegated because they finished bottom of the league , those clubs then had the opportunity to get straight back into SL via on field performance
Whichever club/s gets removed from SL in 2012 will be damaged possibly irreversibly
In fact I have not stated that Les Cats entry has damaged the game , you made that up because you dont have an answer to the question I asked you on page one
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| Quote ="Starbug"I was discussing the thread matter on page 1 , I asked the same question then as now
Les Cats entry has not damaged the game , when they entered we didn't have a club being thrown out of SL , we had clubs relegated because they finished bottom of the league , those clubs then had the opportunity to get straight back into SL via on field performance
Whichever club/s gets removed from SL in 2012 will be damaged possibly irreversibly
In fact I have not stated that Les Cats entry has damaged the game , you made that up because you dont have an answer to the question I asked you on page one'"
sorry thats all that reply is worth.
edit : just to explain the laugher, Les Cats cost widnes their SL spot with widnes being relegated from 3rd last position, and they have come back and will be in SL next time.
if a club like wakey cant survive being put into NL1 and can only survive off SL grants, it doesnt deserve to exist.
Hull KR made a very succesful return from NL1. a stint in NL1 for Wakey could be the thing that forces council to get the stadium done.
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| Quote ="dally messenger":
Hull KR made a very succesful return from NL1. a stint in NL1 for Wakey could be the thing that forces council to get the stadium done.'"
yes but it took 15 years a CVA, 24hrs from being wind up, a failed take over bid and alot of damn hard work. Not sure I would recommend it!!
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sorry thats all that reply is worth.
edit : just to explain the laugher, Les Cats cost widnes their SL spot with widnes being relegated from 3rd last position, and they have come back and will be in SL next time.
if a club like wakey cant survive being put into NL1 and can only survive off SL grants, it doesnt deserve to exist.
Hull KR made a very succesful return from NL1. a stint in NL1 for Wakey could be the thing that forces council to get the stadium done.'"
No they did not , only one club has been relegated from 3 rd bottom in any league in recent history and that was Leigh , because of a French clubs excemption
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| Quote ="Starbug"No they did not , only one club has been relegated from 3 rd bottom in any league in recent history and that was Leigh , because of a French clubs excemption'"
[url=http://viewtopic.php?t=436428Except you've not been relegated[/url
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| Quote ="tb"[url=http://viewtopic.php?t=436428Except you've not been relegated[/url
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Yes we were relegated , but unfortunatley because of the financial problems of another club we have been placed back into the Championship
An RFL decision , we are just doing what they have asked us to do , for the benifit of the competition
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| dally messenger wrote Quote : i think its more appropriate for fans of clubs in NL1 to comment '"
Quote I'll leave it till wednesday then'"
You were saying ?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"
Les Cats came last ? in their first year in SL and look at them now.
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We came last, but with a squad of the top LER players. That meant that the next year we got in the promising talent in France plus a couple SOO players and made the CC final.
If TO can't get all the best French players for the Championship (which Catalans had secured for the LER the year befor SL) then they are saying that they can't do as well as Catalans did in their first year (come a crushing last) meaning that they will take a couple extra years to get to speed. Why should SL have to suffer from their lazyness?
Pepe, where's the gloating? You posted so many times about this, and yet now no reply? I am shocked by your maturity.
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| Quote ="Starbug"
Les Cats entry has not damaged the game , when they entered we didn't have a club being thrown out of SL , we had clubs relegated because they finished bottom of the league , those clubs then had the opportunity to get straight back into SL via on field performance
Whichever club/s gets removed from SL in 2012 will be damaged possibly irreversibly '"
Clubs still have a chance to get back into SL though if they are removed.
And clubs that get relegated were also damaged, and possibly irreversibly.
Each could be applied to both systems.
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| Quote ="belgianxiii"Hello Pepe, I expect you are going to tell me that Myler isn't a Salford product, okay, my mistake I'm not a Salford fan and the BBC may not be the best source for information (apparently our academy doesn't exist according to the SLS).'"
No problem, belgianxiii. I wasn't actually sure who you meant. I thought you could've meant Myler, but it could've been Malcolm Alker or Stefan Ratchford too.
Quote ="belgianxiii"As for TOXIII, they will be grumpy about the recent talk about SF, especially since they were passed over in favor of Catalans last time. I reckon they are still the best option for the next step into France.'"
If this Paris deal is as good as it looks, they'll probably be passed over again.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Clubs still have a chance to get back into SL though if they are removed.
And clubs that get relegated were also damaged, and possibly irreversibly.
Each could be :2ebt9ih4applied to both systems.[/
No , the path was simple and clear with P and R , It is not simple and clear with Franchises when different clubs are being judged to different criteria
Franchises , especially with heartland clubs is down to ' opinion '
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| Quote ="belgianxiii"We came last, but with a squad of the top LER players. That meant that the next year we got in the promising talent in France plus a couple SOO players and made the CC final.
If TO can't get all the best French players for the Championship (which Catalans had secured for the LER the year befor SL) then they are saying that they can't do as well as Catalans did in their first year (come a crushing last) meaning that they will take a couple extra years to get to speed. Why should SL have to suffer from their lazyness?
Pepe, where's the gloating? You posted so many times about this, and yet now no reply? I am shocked by your maturity.'"
im sure players les cats have missed out on france will make the step up to SL and there are more than enough imports from the nrl to fill the gap
with their business plan being a strong one thats all that really matters
if the criteria is numbers of available players for SL, you wouldnt be adding any more english teams to SL either but these clubs have little worry signing imports up
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| Quote ="Starbug"dally messenger wrote
You were saying ?'"
mods make up their own rules dont they when it comes to their posts
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| Quote ="dally messenger"mods make up their own rules dont they when it comes to their posts
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You suggested that only fans of NL 1 /Championship clubs should comment on Toulouse , and now I am the fan of a Championship club
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| Quote ="Starbug"You suggested that only fans of NL 1 /Championship clubs should comment on Toulouse , and now I am the fan of a Championship club'"
all the more reason Leigh should stay relegated then
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| Quote ="dally messenger"all the more reason Leigh should stay relegated then'"
But we are no longer relegated
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| Quote ="Starbug"But we are no longer relegated'"
not really interested in talking about leigh on this thread so ill just say, unless its regarding toulose, wed better just leave it at that
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