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| Quote ="GSF"Nothing fabricated about it at all,both Widnes and Warrington are in Cheshire.
You really don't want to bandy words here about the size of Warrington's following.They have packed out many an away end during the SL era,and before SL.On some occasions the volume of that support has been bigger than Wakefield home crowds.'"
Don't know how the thread came on to away supporters, but never have Warrington brought more than the home fans. Sometimes your worse than KR for making things up
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| Quote ="adam9641"Don't know how the thread came on to away supporters, but never have Warrington brought more than the home fans. Sometimes your worse than KR for making things up
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yeh they took millions to brad on friday didn't they.
Cheshire's not even a real county!
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| Quote ="adam9641"Don't know how the thread came on to away supporters, but never have Warrington brought more than the home fans. Sometimes your worse than KR for making things up
'" Never said that.I meant Warrngton have had followings of around 4-5000,sometimes in Yorkshire,(Leeds,Bradford)figures which were greater than some Trinity home games of the same seasons.
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| Quote ="GSF"Never said that.I meant Warrngton have had followings of around 4-5000,sometimes in Yorkshire,(Leeds,Bradford)figures which were greater than some Trinity home games of the same seasons.'"
4-5k I would believe that when I see it, all I can say is you have never brought that to BV.
Awaits the ground etc etc for the reason why!
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| Quote ="GSF"Never said that.I meant Warrngton have had followings of around 4-5000,sometimes in Yorkshire,(Leeds,Bradford)figures which were greater than some Trinity home games of the same seasons.'"
Please please give over my sides are splitting. When have you ever brought more away support than home support to Wakey? Come on name the game.
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| It's great news for the club whatever way you look at it. A plan is better than no plan at all and I can't think of many people from the area better backed and qualified to head it up than SRW.
If it comes off, he should be knighted again.
Also i'll just add to AP that its amazing how smug and superior Wires have got since the HJ came about. Good set of fans usually, but they are becoming more KR like every day.
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| Quote ="GSF"Never said that.I meant Warrngton have had followings of around 4-5000,sometimes in Yorkshire,(Leeds,Bradford)figures which were greater than some Trinity home games of the same seasons.'"
Wigan and Saints have always brought far more fans to BV than Warrington!!
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| Great news about your new stadium, good luck for the future
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| Quote ="deeHell"Please please give over my sides are splitting. When have you ever brought more away support than home support to Wakey? Come on name the game.
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It's no more stupid or deluded than what was written by 'The Clan':
Quote ="The Clan" Wakefield’s Junior set up is better than Warrington’s and Widnes put together'"
I’m not denying that Wakefield have a good academy that is bringing through young talent to SL, but Widnes’ academies have also been doing this. There are 6 players currently placed in various SL squads that have come through our academies and we have 7 of our own youngsters in our own current squad. The RFL have deemed our accademy system as [i'World Class'[/i
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Quote ="In EnemyTerritory"Continued investment in youth structures including appointment of Stuart Wilkinson and the development of a pathway course with Edge Hill University
Continued development of youngsters that has seen former stars Richie Myler and Adam Sidlow progress. Current team includes 6 club developed youngsters including Paddy Flynn (currently being monitored by Saints)'"
This is being achieved while in the lower leagues. As a SL club we could achieve much more and tap into areas around us, where no direct competition exists for support and young talent.
Quote ="The Clan" Being close to Cas is actually a positive as it gives us a proper derby game, unlike the fabricated Cheshire derby that Wire and Chemics pretend to have. '"
The Widnes v Wire has been a derby game since the game was invented, whether it be as Lancashire or Cheshire. This alone makes it a more genuine RL derby than Wakey v Cas could ever be, since Castleford weren’t even around when our derby was created. It has been a substantially larger event over the years, and that has only changed because of our relegation and subsequent sojourn in the lower leagues.
Quote ="The Clan" Our support has grown by around 90% in the last five years and we averaged over 7,000 last year '"
Like I said, we got that four seasons ago, when in SL with a team near the bottom on the league.
I’m not having a go at Wakey here, but trying to address the blind ignorance of ‘The Clan’s’ desperate scraping of the barrel, trying to find positives where they just don’t exist.
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Quote ="deeHell"Please please give over my sides are splitting. When have you ever brought more away support than home support to Wakey? Come on name the game.
'" You want me to explain it..........again?O.K.,once more.Warrington have,on occasions in the past,had more away support at SOME stadiums,not necessarily Belle Vue,than SOMEWakefield home gates the same season.Get it?I am not really interested one way or the other as I am not a Warrington fan but I was just responding to Clan who ridiculed Wires following in a Taxi the other week.Yes,clubs suppoters do turn up away from home in small numbers at times but Wakefield Would know all about that.Thats all I was saying.
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Quote ="deeHell"Please please give over my sides are splitting. When have you ever brought more away support than home support to Wakey? Come on name the game.
'" You want me to explain it..........again?O.K.,once more.Warrington have,on occasions in the past,had more away support at SOME stadiums,not necessarily Belle Vue,than SOMEWakefield home gates the same season.Get it?I am not really interested one way or the other as I am not a Warrington fan but I was just responding to Clan who ridiculed Wires following in a Taxi the other week.Yes,clubs suppoters do turn up away from home in small numbers at times but Wakefield Would know all about that.Thats all I was saying.
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Quote ="GSF"You want me to explain it..........again?O.K.,once more.Warrington have,on occasions in the past,had more away support at SOME stadiums,not necessarily Belle Vue,than SOMEWakefield home gates the same season.Get it?I am not really interested one way or the other as I am not a Warrington fan but I was just responding to Clan who ridiculed Wires following in a Taxi the other week.Yes,clubs suppoters do turn up away from home in small numbers at times but Wakefield Would know all about that.Thats all I was saying.
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Ah so you have to quote a play off game to prove a point.
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Ah so you have to quote a play off game to prove a point.
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Quote ="GSF"You want me to explain it..........again?O.K.,once more.Warrington have,on occasions in the past,had more away support at SOME stadiums,not necessarily Belle Vue,than SOMEWakefield home gates the same season.Get it?I am not really interested one way or the other as I am not a Warrington fan but I was just responding to Clan who ridiculed Wires following in a Taxi the other week.Yes,clubs suppoters do turn up away from home in small numbers at times but Wakefield Would know all about that.Thats all I was saying.
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Was a big game, in the play offs so you would expect that.
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Was a big game, in the play offs so you would expect that.
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Quote ="GSF"You want me to explain it..........again?O.K.,once more.Warrington have,on occasions in the past,had more away support at SOME stadiums,not necessarily Belle Vue,than SOMEWakefield home gates the same season.Get it?I am not really interested one way or the other as I am not a Warrington fan but I was just responding to Clan who ridiculed Wires following in a Taxi the other week.Yes,clubs suppoters do turn up away from home in small numbers at times but Wakefield Would know all about that.Thats all I was saying.
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That wasn't the point been made.
That play off game is a ridiculous comparison, it's like us saying we took 5K plus away to Doncaster for the semi and then passing it off as our typical away support.
I've been to most Wakey/Wires games in the SL era and confidently say that Wakeys away following at Wires has been a lot bigger than Wires away following at Wakey. In all truth the last two years Wires have brought little more than Quins.
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That wasn't the point been made.
That play off game is a ridiculous comparison, it's like us saying we took 5K plus away to Doncaster for the semi and then passing it off as our typical away support.
I've been to most Wakey/Wires games in the SL era and confidently say that Wakeys away following at Wires has been a lot bigger than Wires away following at Wakey. In all truth the last two years Wires have brought little more than Quins.
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| Quote ="littlerich"Here's a question for you Mr Phallus.
You state:
"position on the Super League table -- namely being at the bottom or not -- is not a major issue for a license renewal decision. The other criteria are more important".
Do you think that's a good thing or a bad thing - in sport? In sport - how much credence should we put upon clubs' actual performance on the pitch?'"
Everything because THAT is what all sports are about.
Sadly though, those who control the game and finances think different and prioritise in a different way.
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| Quote ="Pepe"It's no more stupid or deluded than what was written by The Clan'"
Calm down fella, I was actually responding 'in kind' to the ridiculous posts of Alice's Phallus and if anything was having a pop at him/her.
Beleive me I know plenty about Widnes and their Academy set up!
My experience of the Warrington away following is that they are poor in terms of numbers. Not only at Wakefield but it's also noticeable that they have been poor at other grounds as well!
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Everything because THAT is what all sports are about.
Sadly though, those who control the game and finances think different and prioritise in a different way.'"
Absolutely spot on. All I want is to watch a game and hopefully my side win, winning is everything in sport.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Was a big game, in the play offs so you would expect that.
'" So Wakefield took 5000 to Wigan in their play off game the other year?Not really d who takes how many to whom,just responded to Clans daft statement about Wire fans coming in a taxi,thats all.
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| Quote ="GSF"So Wakefield took 5000 to Wigan in their play off game the other year?Not really d who takes how many to whom,just responded to Clans daft statement about Wire fans coming in a taxi,thats all.'"
5001 actually! javascript:emoticon('icon_razz.gif')javascript:emoticon('icon_lol.gif')javascript:emoticon('icon_wink.gif')
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| Quote ="GSF"So Wakefield took 5000 to Wigan in their play off game the other year?Not really d who takes how many to whom,just responded to Clans daft statement about Wire fans coming in a taxi,thats all.'"
Filled back of sticks on both play off games.
Not seen all the thread but past few seasons wires support at Wakey has been rathe rpoor, and thats all we can comment on tbh!
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| Quote ="adam9641"Filled back of sticks on both play off games.'"
I like Wakey and I'm keeping an eye out for them after the hospitality in the Challenge Cup game but, come on, just have a think about this one, yeah?
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"I like Wakey and I'm keeping an eye out for them after the hospitality in the Challenge Cup game but, come on, just have a think about this one, yeah?'"
In play off games at Hull and Wigan we filled back of sticks ok there may have been the odd spare seat but not many!
It was obviously going to be liek that they were massive games for us!
Not that it mattes as this was in 2004 ffs!
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"I like Wakey and I'm keeping an eye out for them after the hospitality in the Challenge Cup game but, come on, just have a think about this one, yeah?'"
He's kind of right we almost did I was there. The fugure we took to Hull was given as 3,800 if memory serves. Not quite filling it but not far off. At Wugan due to them opening only one turnstile many Trin fans missed the first half. But again I'd guess similar. We actually travel rather well.
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| Quote ="vastman"He's kind of right we almost did I was there. The fugure we took to Hull was given as 3,800 if memory serves. Not quite filling it but not far off. At Wugan due to them opening only one turnstile many Trin fans missed the first half. But again I'd guess similar. We actually travel rather well.'"
Always had a very good and loyal hardcore. Attracting the ones beyond the hardcore has always been the problem, and Belle Vue is a lot to do with that. A new stadium will add on a few thousand extras who want to see something new, will add on more away fans who will be interested in a new stadium, and with a good ticketing strategy, I can easily envisage a 10,000 average. Other clubs will laugh at the figure, but last year's average was over 7,000, and so how much harder would it be to add on 3,000 in a new stadium? The people of Warrington can answer that question.
As an example, how many more existing fans will encourage a friend to go along, or will take their kids when they don't now because they know their kids won't get a good view? Compare how many away fans go to Huddersfield than come to Belle Vue.
It has to be remembered that Wakefield is a rugby town with a long and rich rugby history. It's not like pulling them into Quins. The interest is there, and the willingness to be interested, and so watch this space.
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| Good news for Wakefield and I hope it comes off. Most of the criticisms of the club have ed around the existing dilapidated stadium.
With, hopefully, increased crowds in a new stadium the club will be in a very strong position.
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"Good news for Wakefield and I hope it comes off. [size=92Most of the criticisms of the club have ed around the existing dilapidated stadium[/size.
With, hopefully, increased crowds in a new stadium the club will be in a very strong position.'"
Yes, a lot of criticism of the club has centred around the existing dilapidated stadium. It is the biggest black mark against the club.
However a lot of sceptics on this thread have argued that the Wakey fans are getting too excited too soon, because of the economic climate.
It is going to be very, very hard to raise the money for such a project at this time. Sir Rodney Walker may be a great dealmaker, but he cannot change the psychology of gloom and doom that exists in the business community. When the clouds of recession lift, it could be another story. But no one knows when that will happen. And the clock is ticking for Wakefield (and Cas, and Salford) as we head towards 2011.
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