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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Toulouse to come in automatically next year so it's a 12 team league
Then back to franchising.'"
That's quite a turnaround from recommending a knock-out structure to increase end of year excitement.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Why wasn't there any in the top 8 ? , and how do you KNOW there won't be next year ? , maybe this year the top of SL was ' skewed ' , and next year we'll have 7/8 teams all fighting for the play offs
Yes quite possibly next years MPG could be Leigh V HKR or Bradford , so what's the problem ?'"
It was exciting by about game 5 of the Super 8's when the shield became imminent, but the first few rounds felt like it was about waiting for the semi-finals. But yes, you're right. I'm assuming Leeds will be back up there, but you wouldn't lose the excitement if we kept the old play-off system but found a way to have a MPG. Like against the top Championship club.
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| I honestly think it's the best system/structure we've had. I've loved both years!
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"I honestly think it's the best system/structure we've had. I've loved both years!'"
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| This is a BS system and a stupid gimmick - it's part of the reason why anyone outside the sport doesn't take it seriously.
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| Quote ="Willzay"This is a BS system and a stupid gimmick - it's part of the reason why anyone outside the sport doesn't take it seriously.'"
Those ' outside ' the sport don't take RL seriously , nothing to do with its structure
Now ANYBODY today watching that game unfold knowing the consequences could not dislike it
Pure drama
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| Quote ="Willzay"This is a BS system and a stupid gimmick - it's part of the reason why anyone outside the sport doesn't take it seriously.'"
Are you missing Club Call?
Bless.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Those ' outside ' the sport don't take RL seriously , nothing to do with its structure
Now ANYBODY today watching that game unfold knowing the consequences could not dislike it
Pure drama'"
I know that the game had not finished too long before but, not a sniff of it on local or national news.
Surely something so dramatic should be worthy of 30 seconds on the news.
I thought that media city being in Salford was supposed to be good for the sport.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"They finished 4th in the middle 8 at the end of the season. Had it been a normal full season, it would mean 12th. In every other season since Super League started, the club at the bottom after 22 rounds did not go down, because the season is longer than that.
You could just as easily have 4th in the middle 8's go down and Rovers still go down. Huddersfield clambered off the bottom towards the end of the season.'"
Salford finished 5th, so by your logic they need up 13th !!!, not very good at maths I take it, seeing as there are only 12 teams in SL.
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| Quote ="rover49"Salford finished 5th, so by your logic they need up 13th !!!, not very good at maths I take it, seeing as there are only 12 teams in SL.'"
I agree. By rights, they shouldn't have been playing today and gone down. If you finish 4th in the middle 8's, with the Super 8's above you, you've finished 12th.
If you want some help with maths, I'd recommend working out how many minutes there are in eighty.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Those ' outside ' the sport don't take RL seriously , nothing to do with its structure
Now ANYBODY today watching that game unfold knowing the consequences could not dislike it
Pure drama'"
Not denying the game was electric.
But, the concept is wrong. To finish above the bottom placed club after 23 rounds, and then be relegated, it's a joke.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Not denying the game was electric.
But, the concept is wrong. To finish above the bottom placed club after 23 rounds, and then be relegated, it's a joke.'"
That's like saying if Saints and Hull had got through to the Grand Final it would be a joke because they finished below Wire and Wigan in the table.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Not denying the game was electric.
But, the concept is wrong. To finish above the bottom placed club after 23 rounds, and then be relegated, it's a joke.'"
To finish above everybody after 23 rounds and not be Champions is a joke
They are the rules , everybody knows them , simple as
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"To finish above everybody after 23 rounds and not be Champions is a joke
They are the rules , everybody knows them , simple as'"
I agree with that.
Yes they are the rules, doesn't make them good or right.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Not denying the game was electric.
But, the concept is wrong. To finish above the bottom placed club after 23 rounds, and then be relegated, it's a joke.'"
Makes perfect sense. The league does not finish after 23 rounds.
It's like saying we were top after the first game of the season ie we should be crowned champions.
Everyone knows how it starts and finishes. The league is an uneven structure anyway so a playoff makes it no more or less fair.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"They finished 4th in the middle 8 at the end of the season. Had it been a normal full season, it would mean 12th. In every other season since Super League started, the club at the bottom after 22 rounds did not go down, because the season is longer than that.
You could just as easily have 4th in the middle 8's go down and Rovers still go down. Huddersfield clambered off the bottom towards the end of the season.'"
So you relegate the 4th placed team in the middle 8's and promote the team who finished below them? I think there is a flaw in your plan
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| The middle 8's system is fine. The issue with the game is not the structure. It has never been the structure.
Its the number of people playing it and the amount of money coming into the game.
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| The new structure needs tweaking in my opinion.
The million pound game is a marketing joke. Taking no consideration into the livelihoods of anybody involved.
Yes the games are exciting but absolutely rotten to have all that at stake in the one game.
If we must stick to the structure then the bottom 3 just get relegated to the championship without all the fuss.
The top championship side could possibly be rewarded with a starter 2 points and the bottom SL club could be punished starting on minus 2.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"A more common sense structure would be 12th after 27 rounds has a play-off against the top Championship club, if you want drama. It would have kept the excitement for the play-offs.'"
YES I can go with that
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"So you relegate the 4th placed team in the middle 8's and promote the team who finished below them? I think there is a flaw in your plan'"
Sorry, yes, I thought I had it all sorted, but just before the end it all went badly wrong. Kinda the theme of the day.
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| The big problem is this....
It was always going to go down to the wire. A draw after full time then. Golden point is the issue. In reality, in a game this tight the team that was relegated really was down to the toss of a coin. If we'd won it, we receive it, drive up the field and drop the goal. Yes, Salford still had to actually do it, but the coin toss put everything in their favour.
A vital game like this should never have been allowed to be decided by the stupid golden point rule. Football realised this, that's why they got rid.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"The big problem is this....
It was always going to go down to the wire. A draw after full time then. Golden point is the issue. In reality, in a game this tight the team that was relegated really was down to the toss of a coin. If we'd won it, we receive it, drive up the field and drop the goal. Yes, Salford still had to actually do it, but the coin toss put everything in their favour.
A vital game like this should never have been allowed to be decided by the stupid golden point rule. Football realised this, that's why they got rid.'"
Don't agree with that, i mean look at last years NRL GF. Brisbane drop the restart and the cowboys get the ball back to win it. Salford still had to get up field and into position, and by rights he shouldn't be allowed to knock it over from there near Half way, but it was a great kick despite the lack of pressure. It's a bad way to lose it for either side in golden point but it's like penalties in football, not nice for the loser. still can't believe your side couldn't see it out 8 points up with 2 minutes to go, that's where the game went.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"The big problem is this....
It was always going to go down to the wire. A draw after full time then. Golden point is the issue. In reality, in a game this tight the team that was relegated really was down to the toss of a coin. If we'd won it, we receive it, drive up the field and drop the goal. Yes, Salford still had to actually do it, but the coin toss put everything in their favour.
A vital game like this should never have been allowed to be decided by the stupid golden point rule. Football realised this, that's why they got rid.'"
The got down to the 40 metre line from the kick off and then dropped it from 40 metres out. Worthy of winning any game, no problems there. I doubt hull kr would have been able to do that, they've lost 2 games by a drop goal.
Hull kr richly deserve to go down and now they'll have to take their medicine.
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| Spoken lile a Saints fan never having to face financial difficulties or relegation. Try them on for size and see how you feel.
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| You don't hear soccer fans whinging that the 6th placed team in the Championship got promoted over the 4th placed team because they beat them in Extra Time.
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