What have you got at KR now?

Every time I see the new Vikings logo it makes me think of three boobs hanging down. Like the three-boobed women from Total Recall doing press ups.

Might be just me though

On Keighley's shirt for next season we've got the current club badge on one side and the old coat of arms on the other.

I never understood the argument that those names were meant to bring children into the game either. I would argue 95% of children who go to games simply want to copy whatever their dad goes, and wants to feel apart of the sociological lineage of dad going to games, like his dad, and his dad, and so on so forth. Or the other way around, children dragged to games by zealous parents. All this regardless of mascot caricatures of arbitrary chosen nicknames.

If you want to bring people into the game, surely, it's people within 20-30 bracket, and those within that bracket easily amused by a Wildcats crest possibly aren't the right demographic in the first place.

I don't think that crest has ever been used on our shirts, IIRC it was created for the clubs centenary in 1983 and has been used periodically since on various merchandise.

No offense, but I think that's complete rubbish.

If you want to bring people into the games, you don't pick such a restricting demographic. You try and appeal to as many as possible. Kids, teens, adults, pensioners, disabled, women, ethnic minorities, etc. Find something for everyone, not concentrate on one tiny demographic that probably represents a tiny proportion of the crowd anyway.

And 20-30? Most of the people I know got into the game in their early teens, and not because of their parents, because of their friends.

Team nicknames and mascots are great marketing tools for primary school children. In the schools I've worked in, it has often been the kids dragging the parents down rather than the way you've said.

As for the OP, IMO the ones that don't work are:

Harlequins - Rugby union team
Warriors - NRL team, and are more famous for being just "Wigan"
Wildcats - Two nicknames? And the badge is awful

The ones that are borderline are:

City Reds - again, two nicknames and are both associated with bigger clubs in the area. But they're both quite short so it isn't too bad
Giants - a bit boring, but they need a nickname because Huddersfield is a bit of a mouthful to say!

The ones that work well are:

Rhinos
Bulls
Tigers
Saints
Dragons

Imitation. Sport in general, is more or less, an adult environment, which is good for children to be embraced into, unlike when your son wants to have a sip of your beer. My point remains, that arbiturary nicknames make no difference, and I don't see how a child inspired by them, has enough persuasion power for non-RL parents to fork out ticket prices, and time off to accomodate what is, an "adult" environment regardless of what furry mascots there may be.

And even though, the 20-30 bracket may seem to be a bit hazy and specific. It's common sense to aim for a demographic who have full incomes, and young families which reinforces the process in my previous post.

You’ve ruined that badge for me now. I used to see the sails and prow of a Viking ship sitting low in the sea, as Viking ships did. Now all I see is breasts!

Clearly not just you!!!

No you didn't, you said parents drag their kids. You're basically saying that nearly every kid that gets into the game only does so because of their parents and that's just not true. The majority it may be the case, but most of my friends got in to the game because of me. There are loads of influencing factors on why people get into the game. Parents are just one of many - friends, siblings, neighbours, teachers. The majority of my friends' parents don't even follow the sport. And the majority of the schools I've worked in around the outskirts of Leeds don't even have kids RL supporting families. When the majority their parents come to pick them up, they have little idea about the game.

Common sense would target everyone, not just one group.

RLFC or Tigers? Tigers for me.

I was just checking out the NRL kids mascots and saw this:
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Looks like they haven't updated this page since 2007 when the Titans came in...

Not to be an a-rse, or anything, but I said in a nutshell, "kids want to go to games primarily because their dad/parents go", a generational rights of passage. You're right, in that I said some parents do drag their children to games but merely as a sideline. But whether or not this has to do crests, names, mascots, "razzmatazz", however, I would argue is minimal either way. Though, I think you raise good points which go beyond my own insight on the matter.

that'll do for me

It's a fair enough comment, but like I say, you'd be surprised by how many kids are into the game that have parents that aren't.

Names, crests, mascots, etc. are all subliminal. They aren't intended to be THE reason, they're A reason, and many don't even realise it. It's basically like saying a club could have a rubbish name, no entertainment and a crappy badge and still do well. It simply isn't the case, and you just have to look at the Bulls' crowds since they cut down on the razz. (Not saying that's the only reason, but it's contributory).

There's a journal online called "4 A's to Allegience" that I based a lot of my dissertation on at uni which basically sums up what I mean in a nutshell. It's quite short but definitely worth reading if you're interested? Basically explains why people get into watching sport.

"Les Diables Rouges de Salford" has history to it. No need of a logo though (and it's also a nickname shared with the Belgian National Association team).

Although I would warrant we had it first

Trinity is a superb sporting name and there is no need for the Wildcats tag.

I also prefer the authentic and original wakefield Trinity nickname of "Dreadnaughts" to anything that might be thunk up nowadays.

My suggestion for the name of the new stadium is THE TRINITY DREADNAUGHT STADIUM.

Red Devils or Rouge Diable is historical. Not City Reds, I for one would be happy to see the back of City Reds and just be Salford Reds or Salford RLFC. Bring back the scary devil on our crest rather than the orange blob thats there now.

Must resist.




Quite happy with our F.C. logo.

This:

Nowt wrong with that imo.

Dear boy,
Where do I start?

Dunno

Yep a good one is Rovers.