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Richie, here it is;
www.couriermail.com.au/sport/rug ... 6681596579
O'Connor did play League when younger, Phil Kearns said he was told he's too small, so he went to Union; IMO that's rubbish, he was never gonna go to the NRL, his father is S.African and he has Kiwi ancenstry. But he's been released by the Rebels, the Rebels have some problems behind the scenes, I doubt if they'll quit the S15 tho, the IRB and ARU will make sure of that. He would be wasted in Japanese union, and the Top 14, messing about in French RU! He's an Aussie and only 21 I think. That would be a waste. He's not a stand-off in union, he's made to be a five-eighth in League.
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Richie, here it is;
www.couriermail.com.au/sport/rug ... 6681596579
O'Connor did play League when younger, Phil Kearns said he was told he's too small, so he went to Union; IMO that's rubbish, he was never gonna go to the NRL, his father is S.African and he has Kiwi ancenstry. But he's been released by the Rebels, the Rebels have some problems behind the scenes, I doubt if they'll quit the S15 tho, the IRB and ARU will make sure of that. He would be wasted in Japanese union, and the Top 14, messing about in French RU! He's an Aussie and only 21 I think. That would be a waste. He's not a stand-off in union, he's made to be a five-eighth in League.
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| @gssportsmanager: @OfficialBullsRL despite rumours we can confirm Keith Lulia will be returning to the NRL with the Wests Tigers on a two year deal. Done deal
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| @markbryant81: The time is right.. I have decided to retire at the end of this season. I'm happy to be leaving this game fit and healthy on my own terms..
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Shock, another import.
Way to earn that 'weak' academy rating Hull KR.
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Shock, another import.
Way to earn that 'weak' academy rating Hull KR.
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| Quote ="LeedsDave"Shock, another import.
Way to earn that 'weak' academy rating Hull KR.'"
Sorry are we breaking the laws of the game or something? We have academy players coming through, thanks for your concern though
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| Quote ="moxi1"Sorry are we breaking the laws of the game or something? We have academy players coming through, thanks for your concern though'"
I'm not concerned, Hull KR won't impact the 12 of us in Super league soon.
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| Quote ="LeedsDave"I'm not concerned, Hull KR won't impact the 12 of us in Super league soon.'"
Haha, not laughing at your jokes, just how naive you are.
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| Quote ="LeedsDave"Shock, another import.
Way to earn that 'weak' academy rating Hull KR.'" Psst.
Paea, Dobson, Withers, O'hara, Paterson all leaving with every chance Mika is going as well if an Aussie HB is coming in.
A clear reduction of 3 imports.
Fancy shutting it now?
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Psst.
Paea, Dobson, Withers, O'hara, Paterson all leaving with every chance Mika is going as well if an Aussie HB is coming in.
A clear reduction of 3 imports.
Fancy shutting it now?'" In fact taking Lovegrove out who has fed trained due to his age coming over (Not that I agree) we are right on the button with 5 now.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Psst.
Paea, Dobson, Withers, O'hara, Paterson all leaving with every chance Mika is going as well if an Aussie HB is coming in.
A clear reduction of 3 imports.
Fancy shutting it now?'"
Doesnt address the failings at youth level though does it. HKR have had 5 years of no relegation to get their youth development in order, yet they are still 'weak' in this respect, when P+R comes back in we arent going to see them sacrificing the 1st team to get the infrastructure in place, and the investment in youth development in order. Its a pretty disappointing outcome from them.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Doesnt address the failings at youth level though does it. HKR have had 5 years of no relegation to get their youth development in order, yet they are still 'weak' in this respect, when P+R comes back in we arent going to see them sacrificing the 1st team to get the infrastructure in place, and the investment in youth development in order. Its a pretty disappointing outcome from them.'"
Where also the only club to address issues with our current ground but hey ho
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Doesnt address the failings at youth level though does it. HKR have had 5 years of no relegation to get their youth development in order, yet they are still 'weak' in this respect, when P+R comes back in we arent going to see them sacrificing the 1st team to get the infrastructure in place, and the investment in youth development in order. Its a pretty disappointing outcome from them.'" Was that the point I was making..............No.
Are you therefore talking to yourself............Yes.
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| Quote ="moxi1"Where also the only club to address issues with our current ground but hey ho'"
So stadiums at Barton and Langtree Park are imaginary? The £7m Carnegie stand at Headingley is made of marshmallows and candy floss?
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Was that the point I was making..............No.
Are you therefore talking to yourself............Yes.'"
The post you were responding to criticised your academy, you then listed numbers of overseas players. Im just pointing out to you that you can list all the numbers of overseas players you want, Hull KR still have among the 2 worst academies in SL, they are still ‘weak’ in this area, after 5 years in a franchised SL where they are given every opportunity possible Hull KR still chose to spend money on Willie Mason instead of their ‘urgent need to address their staffing structure’ and ‘provide better access to facilities for all players’ when ‘both of these issues are having an adverse effect on the progress being made by the players’ Hull KR could have 0 overseas players, their youth development is still e and the lack of investment in to it should embarrass them.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"[i*huge list of aussie players at Hull KR*[/i
Fancy shutting it now?'"
Quote ="SmokeyTA"The post you were responding to criticised your academy, you then listed numbers of overseas players. Im just pointing out to you that you can list all the numbers of overseas players you want, Hull KR still have among the 2 worst academies in SL, they are still ‘weak’ in this area, after 5 years in a franchised SL where they are given every opportunity possible Hull KR still chose to spend money on Willie Mason instead of their ‘urgent need to address their staffing structure’ and ‘provide better access to facilities for all players’ when ‘both of these issues are having an adverse effect on the progress being made by the players’ Hull KR could have 0 overseas players, their youth development is still poop and the lack of investment in to it should embarrass them.'"
What he said ^
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Doesnt address the failings at youth level though does it. HKR have had 5 years of no relegation to get their youth development in order, yet they are still 'weak' in this respect, when P+R comes back in we arent going to see them sacrificing the 1st team to get the infrastructure in place, and the investment in youth development in order. Its a pretty disappointing outcome from them.'"
Not as bad as London, Bradford, cas, widnes, salford or wakey at u19's
P&R won't be decided on how good your under 16's academy is, you want relegation then so be it, I have no problems with my club stopping funding to Jnr's to ensure we put out a team every year that will not be relegated.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"The post you were responding to criticised your academy, you then listed numbers of overseas players. Im just pointing out to you that you can list all the numbers of overseas players you want, Hull KR still have among the 2 worst academies in SL, they are still ‘weak’ in this area, after 5 years in a franchised SL where they are given every opportunity possible Hull KR still chose to spend money on Willie Mason instead of their ‘urgent need to address their staffing structure’ and ‘provide better access to facilities for all players’ when ‘both of these issues are having an adverse effect on the progress being made by the players’ Hull KR could have 0 overseas players, their youth development is still poop and the lack of investment in to it should embarrass them.'"
U20's we finished 7th out of 14 in 2011 and 8th in 2010
Whilst not pulling up trees we are hardly have the worse jnr development programmes in SL.
We've gone from having 12 overseas players to next year prob 5. You'd have to be pretty dumb to not see that things have changed for the better since we joined SL.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Not as bad as London, Bradford, cas, widnes, salford or wakey at u19's
P&R won't be decided on how good your under 16's academy is, you want relegation then so be it, I have no problems with my club stopping funding to Jnr's to ensure we put out a team every year that will not be relegated.'"
I don’t want P+R, because it will lead to this obvious and exact issue, where young kids are failed because of short-term self-interest of clubs. For a system like HKR’s to be so poor after 5 years of franchising is even worse.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"U20's we finished 7th out of 14 in 2011 and 8th in 2010
Whilst not pulling up trees we are hardly have the worse jnr development programmes in SL.
We've gone from having 12 overseas players to next year prob 5. You'd have to be pretty dumb to not see that things have changed for the better since we joined SL.'"
[iThe club urgently needs to address its staffing structure and provide better access to facilities for all players – both of these issues are having an adverse effect on the progress being made by the players.[/i these comments, along with a score of 4, are pretty much, outright telling us HKR are failing their youth players with their development. HKR are one of only 2 SL clubs to score such a low score.
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| Quote ="LeedsDave"What he said ^
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"U20's we finished 7th out of 14 in 2011 and 8th in 2010
Whilst not pulling up trees we are hardly have the worse jnr development programmes in SL.
We've gone from having 12 overseas players to next year prob 5. You'd have to be pretty dumb to not see that things have changed for the better since we joined SL.'"
The strength/weakness of a club's junior development is measured on how many make it through to SL level and not on where they finish in the league table.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Probably best that you don't look to agenda wielding nutcases to back you up.'"
It would have been fun to see your trigger finger had someone posted something like that on the HKR board
At least your hypocrisy has finished your =#FF0000You know that word is banned. Yes I can mod on here.-AS defence of HKR failing the young RL players of Hull.
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| We had six players playing yesterday who had come through the academy not to bad not everyone can be Leeds who have the pick of young talent in west Yorkshire and are a successful club so will attract top young talent when we started we were already at least ten years behind Hull fc who had the pick of all the youngsters in this area as our youth set up was non existent but we've addressed that and it's starting to pay off
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| Our u19's are mid table, our u16's have won 4 lost 2, we have 6 players in first grade from the academy production line. Geez imagine where we would with a 3 rating lol!
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