which team would you go for . the queensland maroon xxxx beer canetoads or the new south wales blues tooheys beer cockroaches

Not going to happen.

A live game wouldnt come here as it wouldnt be able to be played at a decent hour for TV back in Aus. There goes a load of $'s. Also the expense of playing the game in the UK would wipe out any gate.

Playing an exhibition game in the off season? At the expense of a potential international, no thanks.

Ordinary concept, State of Origin provides some of the greatest Rugby League you will ever see, but the UK isnt an emerging market (yes london may be). All this would do is devalue the origin concept.

Pipe dream stuff.

yer mann .

pipe dreams . like war of the roses games . s.o.o. played in LA . trial matches played in the usa . leeds . salford. souths . mann

Fredie, I am all for expansion and new frontiers.

But this one is just not viable at all.

Non Aussies?

There have been some who may have been born in foreign countries, but at least they spend some of their youth and rugby league upbringing in Australia.

I cant think of a single player who swapped after playing for several years in the NRL.

london is certainly an expansion market.

why would it be at the cost of an international anyway?

its helped RL in melbourne quite a bit, why not london as well on the same basis

it was an attempt to disctract the thread.

tbf though tonie carroll played for queensland before and after nz and adrian lam was chosen for queensland despite being the PNG captain

willie mason is another.

? did he play for samoa?

hes never played for nz

i am 99.9% sure that big willie played for samoa,

and adrian morley was approached to play SOO when he was at the chhoks.

we could play a double header. war of the roses county vs county.or west vs east. then SOO . that would sell out

Lets move MM to Sydney. It'd sell out the ANZ Stadium both days wouldn't it, I mean, they love their RL over there don't they ?

I'm sure all of these ockers would flock to see games between teams they have absolutely no affiliation with.

I never said that London isnt an expansion market, however is a game of Australians (same could be said for some super league teams) going to help the London RL? There are teams here in Super League and the Championships, there is a growing number of people playing the game. An Australian exhibition match is not going to help the cause.

There are a few things that you need to consider:

The Melbourne game works so well because of a few things:
Government support from Victoria due to the economic benefit created from visiting NSW and QLD fans. I went to the last game there and all hotels were booked out in the CBD.
Melbourne is on the same Time Zone as NSW and QLD

We know about players and their burnout fears. Playing an origin after the season has finished (which is traditionally 3-4Nations/World Cup time). Would almost certainly come at the expense of an international for Australia.

Not being part of the origin calander seriously devalues the state of origin concept and the NSW and QLD jerseys. Make no mistake, there would be a fair few players unavailable to play.

TV: Wouldnt be played to prime time audience in Australia. No revenue for the ARL. This tour would have to be underwritten by an independant promoter or the RFL. Neither (if any forth coming) could see any commercial value.

Littleor no corporate support. Yes there may be the odd 'Australian' company or business group, but not to the real value of the game.

And these are just the logistical problems before even considering the fact that it wouldn't sell out in an expansion area such as London.

I’m becoming convinced that me and fredie where separated at birth

You can add Dally M to that freakish triple test-tube monstrosity. Unlucky for you that the lab technicians left you in England and "fed-exed" Fredie & Dally M to Australia. Those two lucky embryo's got SOO. Whoop de fookin' dooooooo for them.

Willie Mason played for Tonga.

Origin in England? Nah. It'd be like bringing over Premier League Darts to Tumbi Umbi. A few ex pats may go. A few interested darts fans may go.

play a double header locals vs imports aswell

tooheys blues cockroaches vs xxxx maroon canetoads

Can you get banned for flooding the messageboard with so much crap that doesn't make sense? Or just generally being irritating for apparently no reason?! I genuinely haven't read one post by fredie that has contributed to a topic on this board!

yes morley was and it was disgraceful

ive already bought my tickets to sydney.

ill try to get brisbane ones but they sell 53,000 in fifteen minutes so its tough

origin is simply brilliant.

watching test match football is a bit like charity after watching origin

with origin its been competitive for 28 years.

id love to see international footy succesful but when i go you always have your heart in your mouth that australia arent going to win by 50.

and then when they lose the odd game its like the 2nd coming of the messiah

Not in England it wouldn't. Non RL fans in this country will never have heard of origin, so if an origin game was to be held here they wouldn't have any idea that it was going to take place. Over here nobody will attend a game between two teams from the other side of the world in a sport that they are not interested in.

I doubt that it would sell out in Hull, Wigan, Huddersfield etc as there would be plenty of RL fans who wouldn't be interested in forking out for a ticket to watch two teams that don't have anything to do with them and have no affinity for, just as Australians wouldn't flock to ANZ stadium, Suncorp stadium etc to watch our biggest rivalries such as Hull v Hull KR, Leeds v Bradford or Wigan v Saints.

the ARL took an origin game to LA. with zero promotion it got around 10,000.

souths played leeds last year in jacksonville and because of russel crowe RL got lots of publicity including the jay leno show

a year on and the yanks are looking at a TV deal with NBC. surely they are connected.

if people think mal meninga and wally lewis wouldnt get much publicity, how about russel crowe going over there to do the media

i mean the gladiator advertising the ultimate gladiatorial contest, yeah, that would work

the tri nations final in 2005 didnt involve a local side and still got a very good crowd.

its just sour grapes from some of the neg mis sods in england

. you could use origin . too pump up more fans . get war of the roses back . play 2 games at the same venue . like wembley . when the fans see the brutal warfare like SOO they will go crazy for it . all the players will want too play at wembley on this day . pump them up aswell . if its done right it could turn out too be 1 of the greatest rugby league days of the year