I checked but under the search it just came up with the whole Huddersfield team did not turn up so that would include Brough as well.

No selective use of stats at all. How many 40/20's has he got?

I didn't make comparisons with Sinfield.

You tell me how many drop outs he has forced. Presumably the kicks that force these are attacking kicks?

Match reviews from where?

Albert Goldthorpe Medal? Your point is.....

Boots n All stats pack?

You are hugely overplaying Brough's role & influence.

He isn't fit to lace Peacocks boots.

Let's see how good Brough is tonight. The best players stand up & do the business in the biggest games.

I think we've all got it now. You don't like Danny Brough. Tough sh*t, we do.

Yes i am looking forward to tonight.

You are awful but i like you although i have not worked out yet whether you are Mrs Peacock or Steve McNamara.

What is funny is that whether Brough, Kirmond, or Peacock get the man of steel 2013 they will not be playing in the WC for England

Sounds like a good bout of self promotion then. As you say, caused man-love for him, won him that League Express award, got him in the Dream Team and shortlisted for the Man of Steel. Impressive, much more so if, as you say, he's an idiot.

That sort of marketing genius should be at RedHall.

If only he had played as consistently as he has this season for the last couple of seasons and earned his England place prior to the alleged falling out. Sounded to me like he threw his dummy out expecting to be in the ETS rather than putting his effort into playing his way into it.

He's certainly showed everyone what he is capable of, shame it took him so long and that he wont have a cat in hell's chance of lifting the RLWC.

Personally think it could go to either but would like to see Peacock lifting it after the season he's had near the end of his career.

joined such luminaries as Paul King and Michael Smith in getting a dream team nominatio and got a man of steel shortlist but talked himself out of a place in an England World Cup squad. We need to keep him as far away as possible from the RFL the last thing we need is anymore people in red hall prepared to win the battle to lose the war.

League Express you mean. How was the MoS shortlist drawn up?

Super League website is hardly a critical balanced voice for any report is it?

Brough won't win MoS. No opposition players fear him or respect him. Prequisites he doesn't have. Plus the stats don't back him up as anything but a useful kicker.

How is a kick that forces a goal line drop out not an attacking kick? What is one of those?

From what I gather, the short list is made from players' votes and the MOS is picked from that short list by a panel.


Why isn't it? Why would it be biased?! Very strange comment!


If no opposition players fear or respect him, how come they voted him into the short list? You can't just make things up, repeat them, and then expect people to eventually believe you!

What stats prove you are a good leader or organiser?

Surely being the captain and half back of the team that finishes top is a pretty handy stat in his favour? Or does it only matter if your squad has injuries?


Not sure what they class as attacking kicks or not.
But he's kicked 6 40/20s this season according to SL site (more than any player). Dobson or Sinfield don't even feature.

I do find it funny how you were arguing Peacock breaks lines and Brough doesn't despite Brough making more breaks!

Yeah, he doesn't take on the line

Bar getting through that huge gap he has been pretty poor this half. Especially in defence

Man of steel performance from Brough tonight



Terrible defence for Zcharnleys first try, shocking kick led to Charnleys 2nd, poor pass led to blakes

Beat me too it! Great try but nothing else.great when forwards are dominant.flat track bully?

This is again why MOS should be after play offs!!

Beat me too it! Great try but nothing else.great when forwards are dominant.flat track bully?

This is again why MOS should be after play offs!!

Don't agree it been decided after play-offs. Thus discounts players who play in lesser teams. MOS is an individual award, not team.

On Brough, poor game from him but doesn't mean he he hasn't been the best player this year. Peacock had a shocker when we played them at headingley, in fact he lost them the game.

A curates egg from Brough tonight. Good running and good kicking ( a couple apart) but a poor passing game. But Wigan won that in the forwards and a lot of Giants players were not where they should have been and Brough's passing could not find them.

Still let's see what else the playoffs bring

Brough imploded.

Without a dominant front three of Crabtree, Lunt & Kopczak he struggled.

Couple of good line breaks through a gaping defence and some great pressure kicks In the first 20 minutes.

Anonymous in the 2nd half & lost his composure when the going got tough.

When it gets tough Men of Steel stand up, they don't buckle.

So Peacock's never had a bad game this season then?

Good to see Brough running at the line, which apparently never happens.

And like I've said, any half will struggle if the pack gets dominated. The conditions were atrocious for any ball handling displays.

Whatever it felt like, you didn't actually win that game.

to be fair both times he simply ran through a big hole left by McLlorum.

Although no denying his opening try was a blinder.

Brough did everything he needed to do and it wasnt easy, but Wigans defence was absolutely atrocious, Powell and Mcilorum left a hole Brian Blessed would have got through and Tomkins 1-1 defence was just terrible.

I would have backed most halfbacks to score that, and the likes of Chase and Burrow to have ripped Powell apart in that first 10 mins.

Everyone saw the gaping holes Brough ran through. For the rest of the game I can only recall him going at the line & he was stopped. He never breaks tackle or goes at the line to force his way through.

Even when that front 3 came back on he'd lost it. Hudds were a blunt force in the 2nd half & failed to score. Brough was hiding out in the centres much of the time & did nothing.

He didn't lead or organise his team. He spent too much time whinging & sulking.

Big players stand up in big games.

so now you want him to run straight over the top of prop forwards too?

Couple of moments of magic.

Plenty of sets when his team needed him to put his hand up and take charge where he didn't see the ball until the last tackle.

Whether it pays off or not, whenever Leeds are struggling you can usually rely on Peacock putting his hand up and being first in line for the hard work to get them out of trouble. That's what Man of Steel is about IMO, not being a flat-track bully off the back of a dominant side.

You mean he does what all good half backs do and ran passed a big forward through a hole. He still had to beat Tomkins. Brough had a poor game but to criticise him for running into gaps instead of running over the too of opponents is just making you look very very silly.

It's like me saying Peacock doesn't deserve it because he has no kicking game and hasn't got 40/20 all
Season.

In response to CraigIzzard, well spotted sir

I should say Peacock cost them that game