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| what a load of cr&p again.
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| An absolute bl*ody disgrace, the RFL are a chuffing joke.
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| Widnes in 2012, Wakey or Cas out, Toulouse in 2015 closed shop after. Rest of clubs left to wither and die or become feeder clubs, if the RFL have their way.
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Widnes in 2012, Wakey or Cas out, Toulouse in 2015 closed shop after. Rest of clubs left to wither and die or become feeder clubs, if the RFL have their way.'" That is a very interesting statement.
Can you prove it at all in anyway?
A link perhaps?
A picture of a newpaper clipping?
Anything?
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Quote ="macs fan"Just found this on the RFL website.
www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/20619
What does everybody think?
(Oh i should have added that i am not a bitter Widnes fan wantint to cause trouble.)'"
You what? Widnes fans? bitter??? NEVER LOL
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Quote ="macs fan"Just found this on the RFL website.
www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/20619
What does everybody think?
(Oh i should have added that i am not a bitter Widnes fan wantint to cause trouble.)'"
You what? Widnes fans? bitter??? NEVER LOL
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Widnes in 2012, Wakey or Cas out, Toulouse in 2015 closed shop after. Rest of clubs left to wither and die or become feeder clubs, if the RFL have their way.'"
Maybe if you lot werent so cr*p and could get more than enough to fill Domino's pizza through the gates you could join us at the big boys table.
Oh wait..
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| disgraceful
the RFL should just ignore the fact that international RL needs to be strengthened, or that crusaders add value to the Sky TV deal and instead listen to a bunch of chapionship fans on rlfans.
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| Quote ="Darrell"The RFL are a joke. didn't a similar thing happen with their other expansion team.
London something or other.
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Nope. Can't be bothered explaining it all again to a knuckledragging flat earther like yourself, but take it from me, the only people turned over by London something or other were the inland revenue......at their own request! No other creditors got turned over and unless you have documented proof, I would recommend you steer away from imaginary hand outs
Still....if it ain't on the M62 it ain't right if some on here are to be believed
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| Quote ="BigRob"It doesn't matter what facts or evidence you bring to the table tb, the RFL hate Widnes and that's that. Simple as. FACT. End of. No really.
The RFL have given Crusaders & Harlequins millions and given "proper" teams nothing.
The RFL are idiots who don't know how to run the game. The increase in participation, attendances and finances are all down to the hard work from clubs like Leigh, Wakefield, Widnes and Barrow and have nothing at all to do with those idiots at Red Hall.
It's obvious really, the answer is to let BARLA take control of the RFL and let them run it. After all they've done such a good job at the magnificent, superb, salt-of-the-earth, fantastic grass-roots level. As evidenced by the hordes of quality English players currently playing the game.'"
Spot on
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| its another bitter blow to the heartland clubs that are fighting tooth and nail to stay in the top flight and those that are doing likewise in the championship trying to better themselves.
im all for expansion and making it work but would the same be done for lets say a wakefield if they were in the same financial trouble.
for those that dont think this has an effect on other clubs think again another team will lose their place in super league come june and it wont of been done by using a level playing field has crusaders,quins and catalans wont even be in the mix up and are a shoe in for a franchise spot when 2 of the 3 clearly have failed to meet the rfl`s criteria set three years ago for maintaining a franchise.
you couldnt make it up the rfl are a joke who make the rules up has they go along to fit their agenda.
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| Absolutely bull$h1t IMO - clubs like ourselves, Cas, Wakey etc would have got the boot as soon as we entered administration. No surprise at all though considering what club it is.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"disgraceful
the RFL should just ignore the fact that international RL needs to be strengthened, or that crusaders add value to the Sky TV deal and instead listen to a bunch of chapionship fans on rlfans.'"
How do Crusaders add value to the Sky TV deal? I still don't buy into this assumption that a Welsh club in SL equals more Welsh subscriptions to Sky (same with the London theory about it too - rubbish IMO).
In an RL city like Hull then yes - subscriptions to Sky will have risen since there became to SL clubs in Hull, but in a part of the country where no-one cares about RL (e.g. London) it won't have any effect at all.
Widnes on the other hand I'm sure will contribute to Sky's success when they are (hopefully) given their SL place back.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Nope. Can't be bothered explaining it all again to a knuckledragging flat earther like yourself, but take it from me, the only people turned over by London something or other were the inland revenue......at their own request! No other creditors got turned over and unless you have documented proof, I would recommend you steer away from imaginary hand outs
Still....if it ain't on the M62 it ain't right if some on here are to be believed
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no wonder the country is in a mess,you thieving bunch of expasionists.
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| Quote ="j.c"no wonder the country is in a mess,you thieving bunch of expasionists.'"
Yep typical cockney ' spiv ' attitude unlike us ' fools with our horses ' up north
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| Quote ="Roofs"How do Crusaders add value to the Sky TV deal? I still don't buy into this assumption that a Welsh club in SL equals more Welsh subscriptions to Sky (same with the London theory about it too - rubbish IMO).
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theres a quote by a vic wakeling who said that very thing. having a welsh SL side was apparently very attractive to sky.
maybe when you get a job working as head of sports for sky you can just ignore wales.
until then ....
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| Quote ="braytontiger"its another bitter blow to the heartland clubs that are fighting tooth and nail to stay in the top flight and those that are doing likewise in the championship trying to better themselves.
im all for expansion and making it work but would the same be done for lets say a wakefield if they were in the same financial trouble.
for those that dont think this has an effect on other clubs think again another team will lose their place in super league come june and it wont of been done by using a level playing field has crusaders,quins and catalans wont even be in the mix up and are a shoe in for a franchise spot when 2 of the 3 clearly have failed to meet the rfl`s criteria set three years ago for maintaining a franchise.
you couldnt make it up the rfl are a joke who make the rules up has they go along to fit their agenda.
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exactly
the RFL should give up on expansion and take whatever limited funds they have and pump it into clubs like wakey who despite 100 years to get it right still havent
maybe the next 100 will sort them out if only the RFL back them
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| I don't quite get the international argument... Surely the biggest worry is how far England are falling behind Aus and even more so NZ rather than trying to get Wales to a better standard, what happened to focus on France? Or we doing the usual SL club brings in Aussies, 3 years later they qualify internationally and then we talk about how far they have come? (fair play to Welsh euro nations squad in that point this year though).
Being honest a stronger England will just lead to better Wales / Irish / Scottish sides where people Danny Brough can't get a game! At the moment Englands decline is as fast as others rise. Hopefully soon the RFL will remember the reasons they told us all they brought the franchise system in and start working toasted that aim as round one has failed purely & simply.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"disgraceful
the RFL should just ignore the fact that international RL needs to be strengthened, or that crusaders add value to the Sky TV deal and instead listen to a bunch of chapionship fans on rlfans.'"
Come on Dally.I think every fair mided RL fan is in favour of expansion and even allowing expansion clubs little benefits not afforded other clubs but don't you think this takes the pee,just a little bit and harms the image of the game?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Nope. Can't be bothered explaining it all again to a knuckledragging flat earther like yourself, but take it from me, the only people turned over by London something or other were the inland revenue......at their own request! No other creditors got turned over and unless you have documented proof, I would recommend you steer away from imaginary hand outs
Still....if it ain't on the M62 it ain't right if some on here are to be believed
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No other creditors where turned over? Really
Maybe you should tell this bloke off our other forum
"London Broncos were put into receivership after failing to agree a deal with 2 major creditors. The club broke no rules in force as far as the RFL were concerned (& none of the debt was owed to them) and the new club were admitted after a vote of all the then SL clubs. The RFL changed the rules afterwards, Broncos merely used the rules then in force to their benefit. I won't name the 2 major creditors but their identity is widely known within the game.
FYI, I also lost money when this occured as I was owed for items by the club.
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Quote ="macs fan"Just found this on the RFL website.
www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/20619
What does everybody think?
(Oh i should have added that i am not a bitter Widnes fan wantint to cause trouble.)'"
You could have found it, and what people think, on this site if you'd bothered looking.
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Quote ="macs fan"Just found this on the RFL website.
www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/20619
What does everybody think?
(Oh i should have added that i am not a bitter Widnes fan wantint to cause trouble.)'"
You could have found it, and what people think, on this site if you'd bothered looking.
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| Quote ="GSF"Come on Dally.I think every fair mided RL fan is in favour of expansion and even allowing expansion clubs little benefits not afforded other clubs but don't you think this takes the pee,just a little bit and harms the image of the game?'"
1. magic weekend going back to wales
2. wales co hosting the 2013 RLWC
3. wales qualifying for the quad nations
4. crusaders having a fair season re. crowds and on field performance
5. sky saying they value a welsh SL club re. the SL contract.
RFLs done exactly the right thing
if it were me in charge id be giving them 500,000 pounds extra a season to help them out financially from the RFLs revenues.
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| Quote ="Gahan"Roofs your normally ok but thats the biggest load of bollox ive read on here for some time
You dont think people in wales would get a dish on the strength of the Crusaders?
And the london part is just laughable'"
No I honestly just don't feel that Crusaders in SL makes/will make a significant difference to the number of Sky subscriptions in Wales. £40-£60 for a Sky subscription is a lot of cash, so when Crusaders are on Sky away from home, I would guess more people would be likely to watch it in their local (which might cost a tenner for a few beers) compared to a monthly subscription, just my opinion though.
Re London I feel the same - maybe with football and RU it might be the case, but for Quins in SL I just doubt it makes much difference.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"1. magic weekend going back to wales
2. wales co hosting the 2013 RLWC
3. wales qualifying for the quad nations
4. crusaders having a fair season re. crowds and on field performance
5. sky saying they value a welsh SL club re. the SL contract.
RFLs done exactly the right thing
=#FF0000if it were me in charge id be giving them 500,000 pounds extra a season to help them out financially from the RFLs revenues.'"
I disagree , they need at least a million a year , but i'd still give it them
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