Which two ?

All these threads currently discussing possible new SL clubs all seem to have one unanswerable question

Which club/s should be dropped out and why ? , oh it's easy to say ' the worst performing ' , or this/that club if they dont get their stadium built , but deep down everybody knows that there is NO fair way of doing it and whichever club/s are chosen will be decimated by it

So Who gets the ' chop ' and how should it be decided

Being TOTALLY radical here

Based upon RESULTS and League position?

It's a concept that has possibilities!!!!

In the last year or over the 3 years [ but you cannot do it over the 3 years because 2 clubs will have only been in SL 2 years when the decision has to be made

Why should Stade Francais entering superleague mean another club should necessarily drop out of the Superleague?

Surely the important distnction to be made here between what is being talked about regarding this idea and all other clubs hoping for a franchise next time around is that Stade will be completely self-funding.

In other words, the existing teams or whoever gets the existing spots still get exactly the same cut of the cake that they get at the moment, but a team can be added because they do not require either RFL support or the Sky money.

Now there are problems with this, as other posters have pointed out- not least the idea that a club is supported by a single individual. However, Stade are huge, and their president has grown them from almost nothing. He has a track record therefore which should count in his favour. Plus leading figures in France are involved who would not wish to see the venture fail.

The coverage such a team could garner in the French press would surely grow the game, with articles in L'Equipe for instance.

None of this though has to be to the detriment of the English game, as I have said, there is no need for any English team to suffer as a result of Stade's inclusion plus a stronger French national side in the long run gives us stronger opposition.

bury your head in the sand all you want.

who said im not a fan of NRL expansion to NZ or PNG dunce?

im a massive fan of the Warriors and all theyve achieved in the nrl.

eventually i want a NRL team in PNG together with a 2nd NZ side.

its just that next time round central coast will be one side, and the other a toss up between perth and queensland

Les cats didnt have to prove themselves in NL1 and have managed SL very well thank you very much. toulose is too important an expansion to leave to the whims of 2 seasons of RL.

wasting a SL spot on a place like barrow and ignoring toulose would be suicidal for the game. really.

When we went from the LER we had already established a side of all the best French players. TO have failed to do this, at a level where they have a higher salary cap and now have better players available. We dominated the LER, they are struggling in the Championship.

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... -plan.html Would they replace Crusaders, Salford or Wakefield???

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... -plan.html Would they replace Crusaders, Salford or Wakefield???

Yep what a booming succses they was only thing good about this venture was going around the red light district in a drucken staite.

Dave 'Nosy' Parker and The [iSun[/i in behind the times shock.

article in "being from the 6th November" shock.

ah

Laporte was main guest on two different sports programs on French TV channels this week. Didn't mention RL on either.

He did attend the Elland Road game, by all accounts, though.

From that article I can't see them not being in super league this time or the next time around. They are not going into this half hearted but they are prepared to pump money in and the connection with the union team can only help as games could be marketed to them as well. Sounds great for RL IMO.

If Paris are allowed in SL ahead of Toulouse then it will be a travesty. Toulouse have spent years working up to a SL bid, youth teams in place ground improvements sponsors in board, a slow steady progression to a successful SL bid. Do we never learn from our dire mistakes. I'm not against a Paris team but they must start in the Championship.

:2mkhy0tu , which equates to basically half of their required income over that period

If Paris did come into SL then went under within a couple of years then the RFL would be left without any credibility and the game would be left in a state of peril.

Which is why I have suggested a 10 million pound commitment to playing in and being competitive in SL for 6 years , I'm sure that would ' focus the mind ' so to speak

or just be an arbitrary barrier only designed to stop clubs like Paris ever entering the league, as any club the RFL approached with this 'rule' would simply laugh at the game, and probably not want to be involved with a sport that would behave in such an idiotic way

though we are all quite aware that you know this, and you only suggest this rule because it would stop any new club entering the league and that is really what you want so you can carry on feeling special

, does not have even an Elite team already there , is a massive potential positive for the sport but also a massive potential negative if it was to fail after 2/3 years , really do feel it neccesary to see a large committment from a Paris club

Other lesser profile potential new clubs would not need to display the same amount of commitment if they already had some interest locally , we are after all discussing a team in a city as big as London , history does not paint a pretty picture

the potential negative for any club is exactly the same, its failure, that is all that can happen, that is the biggest negative that we could see,

whether that happens to Paris or Widnes or Leigh or Barrow, that is all that can happen, the potential upside doesnt affect the potential downside

all clubs should display the same commitment, clubs outside SL arent outside SL because they have been successful, they are outside because they werent,

the recent history of Leigh, Widnes and the rest is hardly a pretty picture either,

lets face it, you dont want Paris in there so you are setting arbitrary criteria you know no club would ever meet as criteria for their entrance, in an attempt to make it look like you havent dismissed them out of hand

I couldn't care less if Paris enter SL or not , it is unlikely that I would be visiting them unless it was in the Challenge Cup , however there is NO club currently there , which suggests little if any interest in the sport , and as we have seen in the past , the size of the city means nothing as to the probable success of the venture , If you think it a worthwhile enough gamble then fine , I dont , you are starting to sound like Dally M

yet picking a number out of your and saying if you put this magical number in a bank account it is no longer a gamble will affect the chances of success

why pretend your argument is anything other than the same flatcap idiocy that the rest give?

yes, not having a team in the elite does show a lack of interest, putting £10m in a bank account doesnt suddenly mean there is interest, in fact that £10m helps no one do anything, it just sits in a bank account earning money for a bank, if we are going down that route why bother playing at all, sell everything, put it in a bank account and we can all watch it earn tiny little bits of interest

i havent said whether i would be in favour of a Paris team or not at all, i have given no opinion on it other than to say if the skill, backing and commitment and ambition are there, then fantastic, lets go for it, if not lets not, and that goes for all clubs

im simply arguing that the random and ill thought out criteria you are heaping on them is both random and ill thought out