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| Quote ="roversmad"Hmm...and if Briscoe drops a pass under his own sticks against Aus/NZ they will convert the chance into a try.'"
To be fair, he probably wasn't totally expecting Tomkins to launch the ball at him in that position of the field.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Brough & Widdop should have been the halves but now we're stuck with Chase at scrum half. Let's hope that McNamara comes into a little sense in the next few days and puts Widdop in at stand off.
There's no place for Sinfield, top class football teams can't carry a traditional ball playing loose forward any more it's now three back rowers who carry the ball strongly and tackle all day.
Carvel has to come onto the bench.'"
Yes true Leeds have really struggled with a ball playing LF over the last 5 yrs
Danny brought had a rubbish end of season, he was only good at start of the season and his form didn't warrant any selection
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| Quote Hmm...and if Briscoe drops a pass under his own sticks against Aus/NZ they will convert the chance into a try.'"
True. But you can't drop a player because he dropped the ball. Uate knocked on with not a player in sight last week. You think the Aussies will be focusing on that. Typical England fan, focusing on the negatives than the positives. What about his superb finsih for his first try??
Yes there is a lot to work on, but that was some players first game for 5 week. I would rather be make the mistakes this week than in two week time.
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Yes true Leeds have really struggled with a ball playing LF over the last 5 yrs
Danny brought had a rubbish end of season, he was only good at start of the season and his form didn't warrant any selection'"
And if Sinfield could take his club form to the international stage he might buck the current trend that prevails within the international game and the NRL. The fact is he can't as we've seen on every occasion he's pulled on an England or GB shirt, don't get me wrong I've got great admiration for Sinfield in his role at Leeds where he looks world class but he's ordinary at international level.
Brough was brought back from a bad injury about three weeks before he was ready and was then expected to turn around the fortunes of an out of form Giants team. Without doubt he's the best number 7 that is available for England and should be in the team, all in my opinion of course.
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| Quote ="EHW"To be fair, he probably wasn't totally expecting Tomkins to launch the ball at him in that position of the field.'"
Anyone who watches Sam play fullback at Wigan will have seen him throw those passes time and again to Richards and Charnley. It was a perfectly placed pass that Briscoe should have taken and it made me laugh when Stevo tried to blame Tomkins.
As for Briscoe he's a cracking young player and i'm sure next time he'll be more switched on.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Can someone tell me what the idea is with Sam Tomkins refusing to run at the line? His body language is appalling. He reminds me so much of Kyle Eastmond when he'd decided he didn't want to risk getting injured playing for Saints. He needs to be more committed. The whole point of him playing fullback is his broken field running.'"
He usually passes to Charnley/Richards after catching a kick so he can scoot from the play the ball if there are any gaps.
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| Quote ="fcimp"A rovers fan, highlighting Briscoe's only mistake ....... surely not. Where's Peter Fox when you need him.
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Probably getting ready for pre-season at Wakefield
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| Quote ="roversmad"Hmm...and if Briscoe drops a pass under his own sticks against Aus/NZ they will convert the chance into a try.'"
Pr!ck, of course no other player dropped the ball last night, did they? What about up the other end where he cut France apart? easy to forget he grabbed two tries, eh?
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| Hmm, I think I'd make a couple of changes for the Wales game.
Tomkins
Hall
Reed
Yeaman
Briscoe
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Graham
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| Quote ="Panda92"Hmm, I think I'd make a couple of changes for the Wales game.
Tomkins
Hall
Reed
Yeaman
Briscoe
Widdop
Chase
Graham
Roby
Peacock
Ellis
Westwood
Sinfield
Morley
Heighinton
Carvell
Wilkin/JJB'"
Exactly the same as me, but Heigington replacing Westwood.
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Good report that. Gives a much more accurate view of the game than some of the one-eyed comments elsewhere in this thread
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Good report that. Gives a much more accurate view of the game than some of the one-eyed comments elsewhere in this thread
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| Agreed.
Cracking report mate, glad you're my wingman!
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| Quote ="fcimp"A rovers fan, highlighting Briscoe's only mistake ....... surely not. =#FF0000Where's Peter Fox when you need him.
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Signed for Wakefield as far as I know
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| I would have gone for the Widdop/Chase half back pairing but surely McNamara is looking at Sinfield at 6 for the 4 Nations otherwise why would he play him there in the only warm up game (I guess he could have been planning to give Sinfield and Widdop both time at 6 but taking Tomkins off scuppered that)
I think continuity if important so I would go with the same team but bring Carvell onto the bench to replace either Wilkin or JJB
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| Quote ="Dunbar"I think continuity if important so I would go with the same team but bring Carvell onto the bench to replace either Wilkin or JJB'"
Tend to agree though I thought Wilkin had a strong game when he came on so it would be JJB missing out for me.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"It was typical GB/England stuff tonight. Players being played out of position and looking like they were.
When are the coaches going to learn and play players in their natural positions?'"
Probably the same time the RFL pick a coach that can actually do a job.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"It was typical GB/England stuff tonight. Players being played out of position and looking like they were.
When are the coaches going to learn and play players in their natural positions?'"
Which players were out of position? Certainly none of the three quarters or any of the pack. You could make an argument that Chase has been 6 all year but 7 against the French but half backs these days switch pretty easily
So that leaves Sinfield who while better known as a loose forward has been dominant for Leeds at stand-off in their run to the SL title
It’s hardly like the days when we had Richard Horne on the wing
McNamara gets some stick – some of it valid but he certainly didn’t pick a team with players (plural) out of position
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| Quote ="roversmad"Signed for Wakefield as far as I know
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| Quote ="Panda92"
Tomkins, Hall, Reed, yeaman
Briscoe
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Graham
Roby
Peacock
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Westwood
Sinfield
Morley
Heighinton
Carvell
Wilkin/JJB'"
Would be happy with that team. Personally would have ablett on bench instead of wilkin and JJB. Would also be tempted to replace Morley with Bailey. Something different to our other props.
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| Got back a few hours ago from Avignon. A big crowd but virtually no one paid to get in. My mate had ordered tickets in the Jean Ray tribune (the side stand you could see on the tv) only to get to the collection point to be told there was no record of our order. We were then given tickets in the main stand and ended up sat a couple of seats away from McNamara! Another couple of England fans weren't so lucky, they had also ordered tickets but were just told to go round to the other side where any onion johnny and his dog could walk in. Absolutely no stewards inside the ground, I really dread to think what would have happened if another 5000 had turned up.
As for the game, thought Chase look very lively but seemed to be trying a bit too hard, looking for a 'hollywood' pass every time. Was a bit concerned about his defending though. Heighington did some good defensive work.
Heard a couple of comments from McNamara, Tomkins was taken off for protection as they really seemed to be going for him, and JJB was taken off because he'd 'lost his head', this was just after i'd said to mate that he'd made the last three tackles! Daryl Powell was absolutely fuming about the national anthems!! I reckon there were probably about 30 England fans there in total. Hope everyone got home ok, especially the Wakey fan who was going through the entire trip without sleep.
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| Quote ="fcimp"Exactly, the guy who was supposedly going to take Briscoe's place in the international setup according to most Rovers fans.
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Why the ? He plays for wakefield you idiot
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Would be happy with that team. Personally would have ablett on bench instead of wilkin and JJB. Would also be tempted to replace Morley with Bailey. Something different to our other props.'" Lol!
Lol!!! Leeds fan by any chance?
Bailey + Ablett should be nowhere near the squad let alone the team!
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| Quote ="roversmad"Why the
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Irrelevent, your fans were saying he would be a better option than Briscoe based on how he was playing for you at the time, if this were true i'm sure he would not be on Wakefield's books now.
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| Quote ="fcimp"Exactly, the guy who was supposedly going to take Briscoe's place in the international setup according to most Rovers fans.
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Does Briscoe play right wing?
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