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| Quote ="Gronk!"Finishing top of the table after a season is hardly the same as being the #1 seed in a tournament.'"
Murray earned his seeding by being the most consistent player and accumulating the most points in the year leading up to it. It is a very good achievement in it's own right, as is what Cas have done. However what both achievements have in common is that they were both just essentially jostling for position ahead of the big prize. People won't remember that Murray went into Wimbledon ranked number one. They will however remember Federer winning the tournament.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Murray earned his seeding by being the most consistent player and accumulating the most points in the year leading up to it. It is a very good achievement in it's own right, as is what Cas have done. However what both achievements have in common is that they were both just essentially jostling for position ahead of the big prize. People won't remember that Murray went into Wimbledon ranked number one. They will however remember Federer winning the tournament.'"
and obviously winning Wimbledon alone makes Federer the world's best player?
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| Its weird how when Cas win the LLS or Hudds win the LLS its a huge achievement but if Leeds or Wigan do its no big deal, or Wire or Saints are chokers for winning winning the LLS but not the GF
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Its weird how when Cas win the LLS or Hudds win the LLS its a huge achievement but if Leeds or Wigan do its no big deal, or Wire or Saints are chokers for winning winning the LLS but not the GF'"
It's not that weird really, is it ?
Cas and Huddersfield have won very little for a long time and therefore any glory is magnified.
It's like Wigan in the 80's & 90's they won the cup every year, it's just how it was.
They got just as many column inches when they failed to make the final.
The achievement of winning the GF is just as big whoever wins but, expectation can reduce the impact of the win.
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| Can't believe these comparisons to tennis. There is also the small issue of the 100K prize money for finishing first and the LLS. Not too shabby I would say.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Can't believe these comparisons to tennis. There is also the small issue of the 100K prize money for finishing first and the LLS. Not too shabby I would say.'"
Yet a CC final can be worth £250k
which one is more rewarding depends on who you support i guess
Great to see cas wrap it up next week hopefully gives us more breathing space
After that it's a whole new ball game with the semis'
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| Great result for Hull KR against Leigh.
Bad news for Catalans who are in real danger of the MPG.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Great result for Hull KR against Leigh.
Bad news for Catalans who are in real danger of the MPG.'"
the 4 home games catalan have could be their saving grace! pick up an away win at fax, i think they will just be ok
take nothing away from rovers today, they were good, defended well but leigh were awful in attack
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| as per last year it looks like the middle 8s are going to be more interesting than the super 8s
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| Quote ="OFFTHECUFF"Best sport on earth. More popular than league and you should have switched off before, if that was the case.'"
Best? This an opinion
The Sun is the most popular newspaper in this country, but you would hardly call it the best.
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| A super league club is in real danger of being relegated automatically this year with how the fixtures pan out. With Leigh losing today, Catalan losing & Widnes witth their game tomorrow.
Warrington will win the league and probably won't lose a game.
Warrington (P2 W2) - Halifax H, London A, Leigh H, Featherstone A, Hull KR H.
Hull KR (P2 W2) - London H, Featherstone A, Widnes H, Catalan H, Warrington A.
Leigh (P2 W1 L1) - Catalan A, Widnes H, Warrington A, Halifax H, London A.
Catalan (P2 W1 L1) - Leigh H, Halifax A, Featherstone H, Hull KR A, Widnes H.
London (P1 L1) - Featherstone H, Hull KR A, Warrington H, Halifax H, Widnes A, Leigh H.
Widnes (P1 L1) - Halifax A, Featherstone H, Hull KR A, London H, Catalan A.
Can see that London v Leigh & Catalan v Widnes games being very pivotal in the MPG & relegation ride. They'll be the two games on TV on that last Saturday.
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| Thanks for posting that, was wondering how fixtures for the other teams panned out? Real possibility of 2 super league teams in MPG again ?
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| Quote ="craig hkr"Thanks for posting that, was wondering how fixtures for the other teams panned out? Real possibility of 2 super league teams in MPG again ?'"
I think Leigh will go down in 6th place with Catalan v London for the MPG.
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| Quote ="Frosties."A super league club is in real danger of being relegated automatically this year with how the fixtures pan out. With Leigh losing today, Catalan losing & Widnes witth their game tomorrow.
Warrington will win the league and probably won't lose a game.
Warrington (P2 W2) - Halifax H, London A, Leigh H, Featherstone A, Hull KR H.
Hull KR (P2 W2) - London H, Featherstone A, Widnes H, Catalan H, Warrington A.
Leigh (P2 W1 L1) - Catalan A, Widnes H, Warrington A, Halifax H, London A.
Catalan (P2 W1 L1) - Leigh H, Halifax A, Featherstone H, Hull KR A, Widnes H.
London (P1 L1) - Featherstone H, Hull KR A, Warrington H, Halifax H, Widnes A, Leigh H.
Widnes (P1 L1) - Halifax A, Featherstone H, Hull KR A, London H, Catalan A.
Can see that London v Leigh & Catalan v Widnes games being very pivotal in the MPG & relegation ride. They'll be the two games on TV on that last Saturday.'"
Bloody hope Leigh aren't on, lots got coaches and hotels booked based on Friday - could they change it ??
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| Quote ="ColD"Bloody hope Leigh aren't on, lots got coaches and hotels booked based on Friday - could they change it ??'"
No games currently on sky that weekend apart from Catalans. If it's tight, I'd expect that to be on. Also, based on the games, it's the only one that London have on a Friday and I don't think they've had any Friday home games this season so would expect it to be changed on that too.
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| Castleford (PTs 42) - Wakefield H, Huddersfield A, Leeds H, Wigan A, Hull FC H.
Leeds (PTs 32) - St Helens H, Hull FC H, Castleford A, Salford H, Huddersfield A.
Hull FC (PTs 31) - Huddersfield H, Leeds A, Wigan H, Wakefield H, Castleford A
Wakefield (PTs 2icon_cool.gif - Castleford A, Salford A, St Helens H, Hull FC A, Wigan H.
St Helens (PTs 27) - Leeds A, Wigan H, Wakefield A, Huddersfield H, Salford A
Salford (PTs 26) - Wigan A, Wakefield H, Huddersfield H, Leeds A, St Helens H.
Wigan (PTs 25) - Salford H, St Helens A, Hull FC A, Castleford H, Wakefield A
Huddersfield (PTs 23) - Hull FC A, Leeds A, Salford A, St Helens A, Leeds H.
Another interesting battle in the super eights too for the top four. Leeds have a five points clearance of fifth place which could be six if they beat St Helens next week, seven if Leeds win and Salford lose.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Castleford (PTs 42) - Wakefield H, Huddersfield A, Leeds H, Wigan A, Hull FC H.
Leeds (PTs 32) - St Helens H, Hull FC H, Castleford A, Salford H, Huddersfield A.
Hull FC (PTs 31) - Huddersfield H, Leeds A, Wigan H, Wakefield H, Castleford A
Wakefield (PTs 2icon_cool.gif - Castleford A, Salford A, St Helens H, Hull FC A, Wigan H.
St Helens (PTs 27) - Leeds A, Wigan H, Wakefield A, Huddersfield H, Salford A
Salford (PTs 26) - Wigan A, Wakefield H, Huddersfield H, Leeds A, St Helens H.
Wigan (PTs 25) - Salford H, St Helens A, Hull FC A, Castleford H, Wakefield A
Huddersfield (PTs 23) - Hull FC A, Leeds A, Salford A, St Helens A, Leeds H.
Another interesting battle in the super eights too for the top four. Leeds have a five points clearance of fifth place which could be six if they beat St Helens next week, seven if Leeds win and Salford lose.'"
wakey won't be chuffed having to go to wigan twice
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| Quote ="the artist"wakey won't be chuffed having to go to wigan twice'"
I'm sure they wouldn't mind
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| Quote ="the artist"as per last year it looks like the middle 8s are going to be more interesting than the super 8s'"
Baying for blood (i.e. relegation), has been popular for 1000s of years. Look at the roman gladiators.
Winning the GF is popular if you support a top club, but even neutrals are interested in life or death games.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"Baying for blood (i.e. relegation), has been popular for 1000s of years. Look at the roman gladiators.
Winning the GF is popular if you support a top club, but even neutrals are interested in life or death games.'"
Then why such a huge difference in attendances etc?
1300 fewer people watched Warrington v Les Catalans in the S8's than in the regular season.
This supposed life and death gladiatorial battle that should be highlight got only 5.3k
last years million pound game got about 1600 fewer than Hull KR's average.
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| It's a real shame they haven't got a smaller quota in the championship, might do Catalans some good.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"It's a real shame they haven't got a smaller quota in the championship, might do Catalans some good.'"
If Catalans are relegated it will be hilarious to watch the usual suspects initial schadenfreude be replaced by the dawning realization that the heartland championship sides will need to deal with losing home games against Bradford and Hull KR and replacing them with Toronto and Les Catalans and the prize money and games against SL for the top 4 possibly going to London, France x2 and Canada.
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| Wigan could be one win off after next weekend.
If Cas beat Wakey
Saints lose at Leeds
Wigan win
Wakey will be 4th on 28
Wigan will be 5th on 27 joint with Saints.....
Think they will come down to the wire on that 4th spot who know they will have to travel to Cas.
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| Widnes win and London draw with Fev.
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| Going to be a right dog fight, Warrington will win the league, hard to predict places 2-6, big game for London next week at Rovers, probably a must win game for them.
Huge game between Catalans and Leigh as well.
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