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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Too obvious.'"
Also - too predictable. He really must try harder.
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| Quote ="Zuider"Will he be retiring from the England rugby union team?'"
When he inevitably does, the sport needs to grow some collective plums and refuse to have him back.
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| It would be terrible if Sale lost any central funding for him no longer being part of England's plans.
All that expense for a greedy player with no morals (I'm talking about his Cas contract here).
No sympathy whatsoever
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| An old saying, but true. You reap what you sow. So pleased for the money grabbing sh*t.
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| Quote ="Ganson's Optician"When he inevitably does, the sport needs to grow some collective plums and refuse to have him back.'"
Is he really that good. Greg Eden has proved that on that wing you just need to be reasonably quick and play to the plan and the tries will flow. Not slagging Greg off as I like the kid but there are a raft of wingers in the league that would get 30+ tries in that team.
Put him in another SL team and he'd be no better than the likes of Broughton, Briscoe etc and no were near Ryan Hall.
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| Quote ="barham red"Is he really that good. Greg Eden has proved that on that wing you just need to be reasonably quick and play to the plan and the tries will flow. Not slagging Greg off as I like the kid but there are a raft of wingers in the league that would get 30+ tries in that team.
Put him in another SL team and he'd be no better than the likes of Broughton, Briscoe etc and no were near Ryan Hall.'"
He played pretty well in a extremely below par London team. So he can't be too bad.
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| Quote ="tim"He played pretty well in a extremely below par London team. So he can't be too bad.'"
Doesn't that confirm barham red's point really? Playing pretty well in a poor team?
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| He was also in SL not the NRL, so he can't be that good either if we're being honest.
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| Quote He was also in SL not the NRL, so he can't be that good either if we're being honest.'"
Would you say the same about Graham, Burgess, plus other UK players if they hadn't played in the NRL and ripped it apart.
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| I think Solomona is a genuine talent and a better player than Eden even if the latter has also proved very effective on the Cas wing. The RU incident is typical of what happens when motivation is purely financial: Solomona clearly cares not a fig about England RU but plays jack-the-lad now he's being paid £300k plus at an immature age.
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| Quote ="barham red"Is he really that good. Greg Eden has proved that on that wing you just need to be reasonably quick and play to the plan and the tries will flow. Not slagging Greg off as I like the kid but there are a raft of wingers in the league that would get 30+ tries in that team.
Put him in another SL team and he'd be no better than the likes of Broughton, Briscoe etc and no were near Ryan Hall.'"
Great wingers are ten a penny in League.
But England RU can't develop squat so they have to take foreign players or from RL.
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| Cultural issues, that stinks off typical union institutionanilzed racsism
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Cultural issues, that stinks off typical union institutionanilzed racsism'"
'Team culture issues', not cultural issues regarding heritage
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| wire-quin - I would about Burgess, Graham I wasn't completely sold on before he came to the NRL. The reality is there are probably 20 better wingers than him in the NRL. Quite possibly 3 or 4 in SL at least as good as well.
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| Quote ="tenerifeRhino"Great wingers are ten a penny in League.
But England RU can't develop squat so they have to take foreign players or from RL.'"
Who are these great english wingers you talk of???
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Who are these great english wingers you talk of???
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Must admit that comment surprised me too. Looking at the RL Hall of Fame there are 6 wingers in there. 2 were Aussies, 3 were from rugby union and 1 English (the late Mick Sullivan). I suspect to use of the word "great" was rather loosely used, in lieu of 'reasonable' I suspect.
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| I guess what he meant is that we have plenty decent wingers in our game just now. Hall, Briscoe, Burgess, Eden, Broughton, Lineham, Swift, Johnson etc, which is a fair point.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Cultural issues, that stinks off typical union institutionanilzed racsism'"
Don't forget Jamie peacock asking for rangi chase to be called Roger. That was insulting and so ignorant. How it went pretty unoticed I don't know.
Rangi should have told him the days of the empire are long gone and he can shove his English name roger where the sun don't shine.
God knows what he would have done if we had a player called Mohammed or Khalid in the England squad.
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| Quote rollin thunder wrote:
Cultural issues, that stinks off typical union institutionanilzed racsism'"
Rather than we are a tight knit squad that will do everything we can to win the world cup, and letting the team down during a training week by drinking excessively wont be tolerated, as it doesn't fit with the culture that we are trying to engender. But hey lets throw the race card in there.
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| Quote ="kobashi"Don't forget Jamie peacock asking for rangi chase to be called Roger. That was insulting and so ignorant. How it went pretty unoticed I don't know.
Rangi should have told him the days of the empire are long gone and he can shove his English name roger where the sun don't shine.
God knows what he would have done if we had a player called Mohammed or Khalid in the England squad.'" call him Mo or Ahmed, kal populer shortening of muslim names. calling rangi roger is just a joke. like joey johns freddie fittler, alfie langer
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| Didn't Ikram Butt once make the England squad back in the late 80s, early 90s? Or did I imagine that?
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| Not sure its institutional racism as such in Union, even though its the code of choice in fascist countries. Not sure its the drunken behaviour in itself, more probably it wasn't conducted in the proper manner with the correct public school songs, chants and rituals. You can't have too many of these common types around (unless they are really good) and the England RU are probably deluded enough to think that they are good enough at the moment to get away without them.
Anyway Solomona has that RL stain on him that will always make him unwelcome amongst the worst types in yawnion. Not that I feel the slightest bit sorry for him, he chose to go there.
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| Meh! He's RUs problem now!
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| Quote Anyway Solomona has that RL stain on him that will always make him unwelcome amongst the worst types in yawnion. Not that I feel the slightest bit sorry for him, he chose to go there.'"
Is Te'o next or can he go on a training camp without getting bladdered?
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"Didn't Ikram Butt once make the England squad back in the late 80s, early 90s? Or did I imagine that?'"
Mid-90s IIRC. Just around the time he was banged up in chokey.
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