My money's on the big lads of Batley to sort these hard case wannabees out!

Stay safe and don't let the goons drag you down to their sewer level!

I totally agree but lets hope it does not come to brawling with these people. We are better than that, well 99% of the time.

Anyone know whether there will be special trains from Piccadilly & Oxford Road going to Old Trafford? There always are for soccer games, and with a large crowd expected there ought to be for the Grand Final. If so, anyone travelling into Manchester by train can avoid the City centre completely.

I'm sure it won't mate, I expect nothing will happen anyway.

I really hope this is being investigated right now. If it's left till the last minute (and we all know that isn't beyond the police) it could cause massive disruption to rugby league fans in terms of things like transport and pre-match in the city centre.
Why not shift both the UAF and EDL to Whitworth Park, ring it off and let them go at it to their hearts' content?

You are more likely to be attack by the UAF or the gangs of muslim youth's than EDL to be honest

Right someones gonna have to inform a naive little boy what on earth the UAF or EDL are and why they're holding a demonstration and lastly why would there be trouble.

The EDL are mostly football hooligans who will be demonstrating against islamic extremism The UAF are left wing fanatics who will attack the EDL saying they are nazis and will whip up the local muslims into a frenzy of hate

There has been special trains for the last few GFs at OT, but hardly anyone knows about 'em .... They ran them for the 2000 World Cup Final at OT too.

There was a report on North West Tonight last week about Manchester City Council trying to get the demo scrapped. F*cking knuckle-draggers...

We should have a whip around to pay for the air fare for some South Sea Islanders to pop over.

Isn't there a big Fijian community in Rochdale?

well i'll likely to be caught up in it anyway, got an open day at manchester met uni before the final at 10 am and then i will be gathering at the pub close to the arndale which is set back.

Sinclair's or the Duke?

I am sure AFA would be interested in recruiting a few volunteers from the Islands.

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I'm sure it said on the news the other week that what the EDL were doing were "static demonstrations" which are legal, in fact they said it was impossible to stop - freedom of speech and all that.

Purely from a devil's advocate position - if one group demonstrates and then another group turns up deliberately to fight them - how is the 1st group worse than the 2nd? However horrible or offensive you may find people like the BNP or the EDL, IMO the best thing is to ingore them. Surely what they want is young muslims fighting in the street. If the EDL held 10 demonstrations and not 1 fight or protest happened and it didn't make any news headlines, they'd probably stop doing them. Obviously they hold the demos to make the headlines and draw attention to themselves - why play into their hands.

Let's hope they're 'static'in some corner of Manchester like Rusholme or Moss side.



If they were left alone I'm sure the media interest, which they crave and I would say need, would die away. Unfortunately the Anti-Fascists and muslim youth groups won't be thinking of that.

This is still going on then yeah?

I don't think so. While we have freedom of speach there are limits, you can't libel and you can't promote religeous intolerance or incite to violence/lawlessness.

E.g. I could not demonstrate pro Racism, pro Paedophilia or pro Wife-beating.

While the official statement is that the demo will be anti "muslim extrimism" anyone on the street will know that it's an anti "muslim" demo, hence lawless, whther they are "static" or not. You don't need a crystal ball, just records of their last demos (which you can find on youtube).

You mean when they start chanting "We hate muslims" as they did down here? You think that might give it away?

Anybody know what time this things starts Saturday?

I'm going with the missus to the Grand Final so don't want to be caught in a punch up beforehand.

We're staying in the centre roughly in the area they're targetting too.

Great.

www.saintsrlfc.com/news/2114 GREATER Manchester Police have contacted Saints to advise fans planning to travel across to Manchester on Saturday for the engage Super League Grand Final that there is a demonstration by the English Defence League planned in the Piccadilly area of the city centre. There will be a security cordon around the area and a no alcohol policy in force – and that will continue into the evening. They are advising that fans should avoid the area and head straight to Old Trafford and not return to the City after the game.

www.saintsrlfc.com/news/2114 GREATER Manchester Police have contacted Saints to advise fans planning to travel across to Manchester on Saturday for the engage Super League Grand Final that there is a demonstration by the English Defence League planned in the Piccadilly area of the city centre. There will be a security cordon around the area and a no alcohol policy in force – and that will continue into the evening. They are advising that fans should avoid the area and head straight to Old Trafford and not return to the City after the game.

The minority ruining it for the majority.

The Pubowners in the centre of Manchester won`t be happy - boozers are generally jam packed from lunchtime onwards on GF day .

And how are you supposed to avoid Piccadilly - it`s where the main rail station is situated.