Everyone does it this year. Complaining about mucking around at the PTB since they've changed the interpretation is nothing but a red herring.

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What ya mean tactics at play the ball?

Christ I thought we was in decline yet all of the teams still fear the mighty saints!!!

Leeds and hudds are a disgrace at the play the ball!

Every chance Leeds get they chicken wing players yet nothing happens just a letter for any futre conduct.

Saints player does it and gets a match ban!

at this thread.

Especially as Huddersfield supporters have the brass neck to criticise Saints for slowing the pTB.

St Helens won the match hands on but the referee in the second half had a disgusting performance I will admit. It’s the referees that needs sorting out and not the St Helens club.

Mind you if it’s Leeds v Ganson and Saints in the Grand Final I vow not to watch a single game of super league* until this current RFL reign has gone. That’s even if we win the Grand

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They are? Where?

Ben Thaler is a superb Referee, ask Justin Morgan

You make a comment that challenges the belief that your sides style of play is cheap. You clearly think that they are ridiculous to make such claims.

You then follow this up four minutes later with a little bitchy comment of your own, pretty much mirroring the comment you put down.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Saints trying to slow the play ball down against Catalan!!!

Don't make laugh!!!!

Leeds and hudds are a disgrace at the play the ball.

Wigan always walk forward before playing the ball trying to pinch cheap yards.

But the league have to stop saints? If it wasn't for the refs giving saints every call and the RFL fixing every CC draw we wouldn't have won all these cups over super league era.



Or maybe it's just possible we are good honest hard working team!

On the field you’ve been as good as any other SL team. But off it you’ve broke the salary cap in order to win these cups.

Sorry pal but we have been best team in super league era coz of good honest hard work.

We went over the cap by 2% which was minor coz of a payment to a youth player who played for his country.

Other teams have gone over the cap by major amounts on several times but they don't win anything!

Just face it we have won than anyother team thru hard work and pure class.

Yes I agree on the field you have been the best team in the super league era because of solid hard work. However you have breached minor salary cap restrictions in order to do this. But to say that the Salary cap is the only reason why St Helens are good would be silly.

I’m just saying that you have cheated off field in order to gain success on field however big or minor that breach was you breached it. Still there’s no taking away that you have been the most successful side in the SL era due to the amount of cups you have won.



And you’ve been over the cap for other things as well.



Bradford cheated Leeds in 2005.



Well do you remember the 2002 Grand Final when Bradford should of got a penalty. If the Referee had got the right decision and deacon kicked that goal that day it would have been a Bradford win. You were very lucky that Grand Final.

Lucky!!! LMAO

Look mate it happens to often to be called luck.

The is ifs and buts for every final(ask sinfield)

We didn't win all them super league titles, challenge cups, world clubs and league leaders coz we are lucky, cheat or break the salary cap.

We won them coz we are simply the best.

I’m not going to go round in circles.

What's to say the bulls would have kicked that goal in 2002?

All ifs and buts.

Then its justice because the referee had made the right decision to give him a kick at goal.

Another similar situation was The Leeds and Wigan game on the 4th July last year when Wigan interfered with the PTB with 30 seconds left. Klein rightfully gave Leeds the penalty but Rob Burrow missed. If Klein wouldn’t of given that penalty it would have been just as big as the injustice that was played out in the 2002 grand final between St Helens and Bulls.

That was never a penalty! It was justice that burrow missed

What is this penalty you are banging on about?

Please don't tell me the joynt one.

Teams don't win trophies year in and year out thru luck and cheating.

Maybe one day Leeds will be a club with history but you will have to start cheating and break the salary cap to get near our history.

I think some people need to re-read what was said in this thread, about the ptb between saints and cats.

Then get down off their high horse.

It must be joke if he thinks saints try and slow the play the ball down against a big dumb pack that catalan have?

Yes that one.







What history is that? I’d love Leeds to be the only team in SL history to finish top and not go to a Grand Final.

How about the terrible performances you’ve put in the biggest club trophie in the world over the years? I’d love Leeds to lose 38-0 to Sydney and 44-6 to Melbourne storm. I’d also love Leeds to have the wonderful history of been the only team to be nilled in a WCC final.

What wonderful history St Helens have when you look at it from all the worse angles.

More cups doesn’t mean better history. More cups just means more cups.

Leeds Rhinos have a better history than St Helens TYVM.



It doesn’t say that in my back to back champions The story of the 2008 Leeds Rhinos

Sorry damo but history and facts prove we have won alot more than Leeds.

1st team to win super league.

1st team to win it twice.

1st team to win challenge cup at new wembley.

1st team to win league leaders sheild.

More super league champs than any team.

More challenge cups in super league era.

Don't make me list our trophies next to yours

And you can bet on that... Oh hang on...