Better than Hull ?? No, probably better than the other SL side they beat though

It's not really difficult to understand

If you get lanced by a team from the division below when playing a good percentage of your first team squad then you have to be worried about attitude and the likes.

The week previously you beat us, for 40 minutes it was a decent contest, but the young Rovers lads who took the field for the second 40 minutes played with abit of passion and pride to keep the score to what it was.

Bradford and featherstone have both put the cleaners through you in the opening 40 minutes of games and then fev managed to win 30-0 going up the hill in the second half.

You've got to be worried that the attitude of your players appears to be well off where it should be surely?

Yesterday players the ilk of Yeaman, Horne, lineham, Crooks et al where playing in a game for a fantastic servant of your club and he's had to come out and publically apologise for the shame of the result.

Radford said he'd root out the problems well bows his chance

your strongest line up couldnt break down 'our kids' for nearly 20 minutes in the first half after we had scored! it took a sin binning for you to get over! not much to crow about is it?

maybe these friendlies will show radford the problems that certain players have at fc, at least we go into our opening game knowing we have to improve and sort them out

I hope some of the lower SL teams keep on simply assuming they must somehow be in a different class to the elite Championship teams. I think there's a bit of delusion going on that there's a massive gap, and I'm not sure that's true, maybe it was a while ago but not these days. Most neutrals who attended the Wakefield & Hull games v Fev, for instance, were talking about the SL teams being comprehensively outplayed throughout. It's hard to say what a difference having a complete 1-17 of SL starters, and a meaningful game, would make, but in my opinion the gap between lower SL and upper Championship has been narrowing for some time.

They are Super League players that's how it should be isn't it, abit of pride in your tryline which obviously wasn't on show yesterday.

Not to mention Rovers should of had another 3 possibly 4 scores if not for some shocking handling with the line at their mercy. They even tried to mess the Hodgson try up with a poor final pass.

going on that assumption we should have beaten wigan in the cup!

if, buts, maybes!

already posted the lack of stomach and fight from players yesterday, just find it funny you all come crawling out from under the woodwork when we get beat! de ja vu from last season! remember friendlies dont carry points!

I don't feel it's the gap between the bottom of SL and the championship, (as much as it pains me to say) it's the gap between the lower end of SL and fev that's narrowing.

It's a good thing they don't count we've lost both games but thankfully we've competed and come through relatively unscathed in both which is what pre-season is all about.

I would of expected Radford to field as close to his starting 17 for the game against the frogs yesterday even if it was only for half an hour.

Can't understand playing the fixture otherwise

You might be right, but us Fev fans are in no position to be complacent about our Championship rivals; although we've topped the league 4 years in a row, Sheffield, not us, are officially champions for the second year running, as much as that might irk us. Fev do seem to have taken another step forward this pre-season, but we need to keep winning the bread-and-butter games in our division.

As for the other top Championship teams, I suspect coaching will play its part again. Leigh look to have recruited very well, are talking the talk, and should be improved this season if they can put it all together, but Sheffield and Batley, neither of whom have really made a big splash in terms of new recruits, are still coached by guys with a terrific track record at this level and neither are ever pushovers. The difference is neither of those two clubs might have the scope to develop into a genuine SL outfit, but we'll see.

I think castleford will show the importance of a good coach this season. Darly powell is very underrated for some reason in my opinion. Im friends with a couple of cas fans out here and i said last season you will better with out rangi chase and with powell as your coach, i look forward to seeing if i am right.

I agree with this. Of those teams that seem to be regarded as being lower-echelon teams, Cas are the ones I'd least expect to be involved in the bottom 2 dogfight & not inconceivable they could be top 8.

Crawl out from under the woodwork when you lose???
Yet another irony meter goes 'pop'.

Warrington 14 - Salford 8 both with very strong teams out, Salford took time to get going but when they did they played some great stuff. And I think we won the battle of the BIFF!

No, no you didn't.

That applies to both statements you made there.

Tell em how rangi got on

missed the posts on the fev game on the fc board? i'm suprised many of you were on there!!

Imo all three of your tries were a carbon copy of each other, from 10 metres out, ours were more exciting. In that last 25 our forwards smashed you to bits! We we're very unlucky not to win the game, wire best team in first half Salford best in the 2nd. Rangi set up a brilliant try but was sin binned for a chicken wing tackle apparently?

Baring in mind that was our 2nd ever game as a team we did good. We'll improve week by week.

Warrington dominated the first half, came out the blocks much quicker than Salford and caught us cold. Second half was the complete opposite with Salford dominating and looking the likely team to go on and win the game. A disallowed try at 14-8 looked like a dubious call, but we had enough chances to score further tries but bombed them on the Warrington line.

As far as friendlies go it was a great game.

Perfectly summed up.

Come on then Tiger, let's have you're view.....

In his view warrington didn't have enough penaltys to score more try's, it's so not fair!

So who caused this biff ?

Nearly perfectly summed up. It was a game of two halves that's for sure, but, didn't feel somehow that you'd go on to win the game. As friendlies go I quite enjoyed it too, plus points for both sides.

Salford's pack is big but as for winning the biff and smashing this and that I didn't quite see that, midpoint through the second half we had a decent spell but squandered our chances on 2 or 3 plays and we could have seen a scoreline that probably flattered us.

Not quite sure why Rangi went off on one, he's probably better playing rugby and leaving the tough guy stuff to those that are.

Theres certainly history between Westwood and Chase from the England camp. From the first minute Rangi made a point of targetting Westwood everytime he touched the ball, I think he even caused Westwood to leave the pitch momentarily to get bandaged up. I'm surprised Westwood wasnt interested in retaliating, unless he's scared of Rangi of course.

Westwood was obviously frightened to death, all that crepe ha ha Maybe this is the new mature Benny with his role as club captain this year and he has decided to be a bit more of a cool customer?

Either way, I think Noble might not be best pleased if your 6 continues with this kind of shennigans