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| Quote ="Kosh"It doesn't say anything at all about the game's current method of expansion one way or another. All it says is that I wanted Starbug's reasons for demanding the resignation of the entire RFL board over one (admittedly significant) error of judgement.
And there we go. Anyone with a slightly different opinion must have an agenda, eh?
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I thought this post was not worthy of your royal attention, o holy one? What changed Your Majesties mind?
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| Quote ="tb"so to sum up the last 9 pages: the RFL should be more transparent = the RFL should say thing which confirm my opinions and prejudices and not say things which cast doubt on them.'"
To sum up, you've ignored all the points made in the last nine pages and pressed the reset (otherwise known as the panic) button. I suggest this post says more about your own prejudices than anything posted in this thread up to now.
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| Quote ="Hedgehog King"I understood that the first time round. However, I would still be interested to see how certain clubs only rated C.'"
like who?
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Then why bother going through the scoring process at all?'"
To make the process more efficient.
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| Quote ="ExiledTiger"'Subjective opinion' and complete lack of transparency is how FIFA go about things. Not an MO to be applauded or copied I would suggest.'"
anybody not judging them by subjective opinion would be truly idiotic.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"like who?'"
Widnes or Toulouse for instance.
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| Quote ="Kosh"It's just impossible to have a sensible conversation about this topic because there are too many polarised opinions on both sides. I shall go back to looking in with amusement and keep my virtual fingers out of the meat grinder in the future.
Have fun!
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Things are polorised because nature deplores a vacuum. Because the RFL are so secretive about how they actually come to the conclusions they do, the void will be filled with speculation and mistrust.
Quote ="Kosh" If you must know, it was my mum's birthday yesterday and we went out for a family meal. Just occasionally there are better things to do than be on here having circular arguments with random strangers.
I was reminded why I don't normally bother posting on this topic as well. I've said nothing controversial or even picked sides, yet my rather mild comments have been met with the usual antagonism afforded to anyone who doesn't think that the RFL are either demons from hell or faultless angels. '"
It was just a poor attempt at humour, on my behalf. Don’t take such things to heart.
All the best to your Mum.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"What if Sky asked them not to?'"
You could be right.
Sky want to interfere with how RL is run, but don’t want to be seen to be doing so.
So, no chance of transparency.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"To make the process more efficient.'"
So them having to take the time to go through all the applications rather than them just picking who they want to be in SL is more efficient?
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| Quote ="a.n Other"So them having to take the time to go through all the applications rather than them just picking who they want to be in SL is more efficient?
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well know, they have to read all the applications to see who they want in SL.
They take out the ones who are obviously good enough (i.e the top groups) and if there are spaces left they look in to the lower groups further and make a decision on who they believe will be best placed in SL.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA":n088dfdkwell know, =#FF0000:n088dfdkthey have to read all the applications to see who they want in SL.:n088dfdk
They take out the ones who are obviously good enough (i.e the top groups) and if there are spaces left they look in to the lower groups further and make a decision on who they believe will be best placed in SL.'" , or seen where these clubs have finished on the pitch , or what attendances they get, or have any idea how many players these clubs have produced , or if any of these clubs have infringed any ' operating rules ' that were in place at the time or not
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| Quote ="Starbug"Of course they do , because it's not like they have ever actually visited any of the stadiums [ built or not , or seen where these clubs have finished on the pitch , or have any idea how many players these clubs have produced , or if any of these clubs have infringed any ' operating rules ' that were in place at the time or not
Is it
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you see, there you go again, confusing the franchise application and process with the tick-box process of Sky.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"I thought this post was not worthy of your royal attention, o holy one? What changed Your Majesties mind?'"
Have a little read back along the thread, O Chippy One. You may have misremembered something.
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| Quote ="Pepe"It was just a poor attempt at humour, on my behalf. Don’t take such things to heart.'"
TBH that comment was meant more generally to the few others who seemingly missed me while I was away. Your post was just a convenient place to park it.
And I never take anything said on here to heart. I'd have packed up and left long ago if I did.
[size=50*waits for the inevitable comeback to that straight line...[/size
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| Quote ="Kosh"Have a little read back along the thread, O Chippy One. You may have misremembered something.'"
Quote It's just impossible to have a sensible conversation about this topic because there are too many polarised opinions on both sides. I shall go back to looking in with amusement and keep my virtual fingers out of the meat grinder in the future.'"
Apparently I misremembered something so strongly it appeared in your own posts.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"you see, there you go again, confusing the franchise application and process with the tick-box process of Sky.'"
Ah , I see , so they dont take into consideration
Stadiums that clubs play at
On field performance
Attendance levels
Player production
Financial stability
Salary cap infringements
Or even location
So what do they decide on ?
Who has the best pies ?
You have excelled yourself with that post
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| Quote ="Starbug"Ah , I see , so they dont take into consideration
Stadiums that clubs play at
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Financial stability
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Or even location
So what do they decide on ?
Who has the best pies ?
You have excelled yourself with that post
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Going into administra….
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Apparently I misremembered something so strongly it appeared in your own posts.'"
Mea Culpa. I thought you were referring to my response to Starbug's post a few pages back.
On the general point, I'm just tidying up a few ongoing convos then you can go back to shouting at each other from your assorted entrenched positions with no further interference from me.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"you see, there you go again, confusing the franchise application and process with the tick-box process of Sky.'"
Ah , now I understand , they need to be told in writing all that stuff , so basically whoever bulls the most gets the spot in SL
Thats why Leigh didn't get in , we told the truth , when in fact it was a lieing competition
They dont actually ' check ' anything to see if people have made things up , as long as its on the piece of paper
A bit like ' we were only following orders ' type thing , or a ' jobsworth ' saying " If you dont have a ' chitty ' you cant have the lifesaving medicine "
No problem , I know where we went wrong
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| Quote ="Starbug"Ah , I see , so they dont take into consideration
Stadiums that clubs play at
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Or even location
So what do they decide on ?
Who has the best pies ?
You have excelled yourself with that post
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You've missed out one important thing.
A certain "je ne sais quoi". Ultra transparency. A team has to have a certain something, the "it" factor, je ne sais quoi...if that's not clear to you, for shaaaame.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"You've missed out one important thing.
A certain "je ne sais quoi". Ultra transparency. A team has to have a certain something, the "it" factor, je ne sais quoi...if that's not clear to you, for shaaaame.'"
You are Abe Simpson and I claim my £5
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| Quote ="Pepe"You are Abe Simpson and I claim my £5
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I'll be back in a jiffy!
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"anybody not judging them by subjective opinion would be truly idiotic.'"
Do you actually understand what subjective means? It means 'influenced by or based on personal beliefs or feelings, rather than based on facts.' Now if you genuinely believe that decisions made by the RFL should be 'influenced by or based on personal beliefs or feelings, rather than based on facts' that's your prerogative, but I shan't be wasting my time discussing anything further with you.
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| Quote ="ExiledTiger"Do you actually understand what subjective means? It means 'influenced by or based on personal beliefs or feelings, rather than based on facts.' Now if you genuinely believe that decisions made by the RFL should be 'influenced by or based on =#FF0000personal beliefs or feelings, rather than based on facts' that's your prerogative, but I shan't be wasting my time discussing anything further with you.'"
That explains it
It is who has the best pies
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| Ah I think I see it now.
Those who the RFL wanted in super league only had to enter a subjective licence application. Anyone they didn't want in there had to submit a quantative one which could be manipulated by being subjective of the quantative. Very clear. It allows the RFL to manipulate the whole process and build an artificial super league of their liking!!!
Hardly fair that eh? Oh, there's that word again!
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