Post, just to update you,Thomson & Gildart got injured against Tonga ,and are very unlikely to feature again on this tour. Are you sure you want to put Bateman on the subs bench too

? What i've seen of (and enjoyed watching is) Liam Watts this season, It beggars belief why he was never selected on the tour. For me, I would be looking to give the managerial post to Shaun Wane next year as Bennett just doesn't do it for me. I've also been a bit of a fan of Liam Farrell,but Bennett has is Aussie luvvies. Also, If Bennett insist on playing Josh H,then Clark MUST be on the bench to interchange.I also think that Sam Tomkins could play a part at full back. I'm not sure about the wings atm, but after the Kiwis game,my mind will be a lot clearer.

So what happened with the national anthem. Considering officially it is GB & Irish Lions. Surely they couldn't be so insensitive and out of touch to play God Save The Queen.

Let’s be honest. We were beaten easily by players not good enough for Aus or NZ.

The difference in backs between this team and the English rugby union team is absolutely embarrassing.

I watched the second half of the Eng v NZ game and the players for England make ours look like amateurs

If you believe Taumalolo and Fafita aren’t good enough for NZ/Australia you know less about Rugby League than I originally thought.

When can anyone remember the last time Hodgson played well for England? He has been average/poor every time he plays. Bennett needs to stop looking @ his NRL form as it is not transfering to the international game. He has had plenty of chances and has disappointed on a constant basis.

And Regan Grace should have made the tour.

Simple answer is that Hodgson is playing in a gash International team. After Cam Smith, Hodgson is a close second for best hooker in the world club level. consistently performs, and is part of the lynch pin that put Raiders into the GF. He's not superman, it's a team game. Put him in a team full of individuals, which GB/England are, you can't expect miracles.

As for disappointing on a constant basis, our International team has done just that for decades now, so don't really see your point.

Just watched the game on iplayer. Totally outplayed. No creativity. As I have said many times before - a team that has to play Widdop and stand off must be a poor team.

I sort of get what he's saying, we've played well plenty of times but usually balls it up against the Aussies, sometimes NZ. Among all those games where we've won and played well, I can remember the likes of Big Sam, Graham, Makinson, Peacock, McGillvery, Hall, Roby, Bateman etc etc have had proper stand out games for us, numerous times.

Even as a Hodgson fan, who's loved how he's taken to the NRL the past few years & seen how he bosses that Raiders team around the park week in and week out, hardly having a off game. trouble is imo I just don't remember him having those kind of games for GB/England, where you think to yourself, man he killed it out there tonight. I don't know whether it's the different styles of the two teams, or Hodgson tries to take too much on himself for GB, who knows.

I cannot understand how so many posters on this thread want to drop Gareth Widdop. He is a top class player, considered as such by every NRL commentator/pundit, and was captain and crucial for St. George-Illawarra before he got injured. He was even close to winning the Dally M medal last year. You just cannot dismiss him. He has to be either full back or five eighth for Great Britain.

Really? Early on he had a 3 to 2 overlap on the outside and kicked. Any decent half back would have created a walk in try. Then he gave away the first try.

Widdop is a myth. Either he’s not very good, or he is good but bottles it internationally. Either way, he’s no use.

Widdop's best is behind him. A few seasons ago he was great.

If he was still great, he wouldn't be in SL, he'd be plying his trade in the NRL. Can still be good on his day, but his day has long since passed.

...yet he plies his trade in SL and not the NRL, so patently he's not as good as you and the NRL press would like to believe.

He was offered a new deal by SGI but wanted to come home for family reasons.

I'd be interested to know your thoughts on Jackson Hastings if that's how you judge a player.

Apples and oranges, mate.

Hastings was a young, talented, hungry halfback who messed-up off the field and needed to get his life sorted let alone his RL career. Salford offered an olive branch, he took it and set about turning his life around. Didn't do a bad job eh?

Widdop has been a talented HB for many years, is approaching the end of his career, and suffers with injury more regularly now than before. A severely reduced contract offered by SGI should show you that he is a big risk in a key position. Their offer reflected that. He may do okay in SL, but that doesn't mean what I say isn't true now does it?

Widdop is still a class operator.
I'd have took him at Hull in a breath.

Like I said, I think he's been a great player and will probably do okay over here if he stays injury free. He's still a gamble, and an expensive one at that.

Widdop has obviously been a quality performer down the years but his best days are just behind him. I think the fact none of the so-called 'big three' clubs in this country were in for him speaks volumes.

He plays for Warrington, who are to anyone with a RL brain are part of the big four and are currently well above its lowest member Leeds, which makes them part of your imaginary big 3



How unlike Widnes they are.

Wigan, St Helens and Leeds are all far bigger clubs than Warrington. At least Leeds, as average as their current side is, don't have to look back to 1955 for the last time they were Champions.

It could certainly be argued too that Hull FC are a bigger club than Wire.

As for your own joke club, the one that had fans on here claiming were an 'established top 5 SL club' after a couple of 5th placed finishes but pathetically ended up having fans on the pitch and celebratory music over the tannoy after a last day win over the mighty London. Such a smalltime nothing club.

You're not seriously trying to say Wire have displaced Leeds as a bigger club are you? Leeds have won the Super League 8 times to Warrington's 0, won the World Club Challenge 3 times to Warrington's 0, and they consistently attract larger crowds. The big three remain Leeds, Saints and Wigan. There is no 'big four' because there isn't another British club at that level since Bradford's demise.

Spot on

Can’t argue with that. Need to win one to be included in the group.

What utter rubbish, the big three or big four are based on current standings not historical. Hunslet can claim to be in the big four by your logic. Hence at the moment, Warrington are higher up the pecking order than Leeds, live with it. That may change but for now, Warrington hold one out of the two trophies available, what have Leeds got?

With the injury tally last season, Trinity were never likely to hit 5th.
I just had another look at the table to see where Trinity finished in relation to your club but, I couldn't see them.
How was your season











At least you finished above Dewsbury