What ridiculous comparisons are people making against this?

And no one is saying it’s a scandal so stop being melodramatic, just that it is a poor rule.

Just funny how if the likes of Leeds, Wigan or Saints used this rule then it’d be the usual “RFL pets” and bending the rules for the big clubs. One of the smaller clubs in Cas do it and it’s fine and nothing to see here.

Comparisons such as Walmsley last season, who played games.

Who is to say they haven’t? Because it hasn’t been publicised doesn’t mean to say it hasn’t been used.

The Hull Daily Mail seems to have received news/evidence it has been used in previous seasons. We won’t be the first and we won’t be the last.

Clubs at the bottom won’t use it because a few of them don’t actually spend the full salary cap to warrant using it (eg Salford, Wakefield).

1 - Walmsley wasn’t used as a comparison, if anything as a complete opposite, you might want to understand what comparison means.

2 - So there’s no evidence of it happening before, but it’s ok we can just guess that it did to justify it...ok then.

3 - If a newspaper had evidence that it happened before they would name the insistences when it did. A newspaper saying yes it happened, just believe us without details isn’t worth jack all and quite laughable you’d hang your hat on that, do you not know how newspapers work or operate? Them not naming names pretty tells you that they don’t have evidence.

Would you care to expand on your last paragraph concerning clubs at the bottom.

And if Cas weren’t spending the full cap they wouldn’t get dispensation, most clubs leave a gap in their caps to deal with such a scenario. So what’s happening is Cas are being let off with poor cap management, that’s why it’s a poor rule. That’s why is not comparable to other dispensations that Cas fans want to try throw around to make this sound fine.

Surprised there isn't something in the salary cap rules stating if a player is injured upto 'x' date they don't count on salary cap. Would take all uncertainty out of it.

Can you provide physical evidence of Cas’ salary cap management please rather than your assumptions? I only ask as you seemed pretty keen on needing evidence when the HDM published their article.

Maybe Cas aren’t spending the full cap and they do have plenty of room to sign a replacement without dispensation.....but that would only make the ruling even more stupid.

If Cas were already, lets say, £150/200k under the cap but still asking for salary cap relief when they have more than enough to sign a replacement then only highlights how ridiculous the rule is.

It wouldn't know would it? I imagine clubs would exploit the ruling to there advantage.

Don't see how anyone can have a problem with them being given an exemption if he's literally not going to play for the entire season. Other ways round it anyway even if the RFL didn't let them. Just loan him to a team with enough cap space (presumably only us, Salford and London) in exchange for a favour at some point, similar to the deal we did with Hull for Dean Hadley the other year.

How is that even remotely similar to the Dean Hadley deal? Dean played more or less the full season for us and was IMO one of our top performers, yes Hull needed to offload for temporary relief yet Dean was fully fit and highly regarded throughout the game, if we hadn`t of taken him there would have been at least 5 or 6 other SL clubs that would have.

Simon Grix deal was very similar though.

So would any other member of the coaching staff. Do they count on the cap?

Easy. There’s no use giving a dispensation to a club to spend more money when they can’t afford the existing cap, and can fit a player under it if they wanted to replace a player out injured long-term.

How do you know Cas have spent the full cap. They could be £70k under but have asked only for dispensation of a further say £60k to bring in a replacement on a similar salary to Gale because decent halves are generally higher paid. Doesn’t have to be Gale’s full salary.

In short, you are guessing and making up stuff but in reality you have no evidence to make any of these claims.

PS, it was explained in League Express as I have explained it.

In short, If the player is out for the full season and it’s supported with medical evidence he doesn’t count on the cap. If he recovers sooner than expected and the club wants to play the player, they have to reduce their cap by the appropriate amount to be able to put his salary back on the cap.

Be interesting if cas decide to spend their pocket money on, say, 3 players for the duration of the play offs having agreed the wardle swap in the meantime.

Go down well, I reckon.

You just come up with complete guesswork in your first paragraph then have a go at me for guesswork

Yes and has been mentioned, people know the rule and aren’t denying it exists. They’re questioning whether it’s a good rule that should actually exist.

Exactly one of the examples why it’s a poor rule. Likelihood is they won’t sign a HB that cost the same salary as Gale so could easily end up using it on more than 1 player.

God, I hope we do sign 3 players with our pocket money - just to see the reaction on here would be worth it alone.

I hear Widdop is flying to the rescue tomorrow.
One year deal at Cas followed by a two year deal with Warrington (who can’t fit him under the cap in 2019, even as a marquee player).
Cas have also been given dispensation from the non-fed player quota for Widdop, who is non-fed trained despite being English. The RFL are also paying part of his salary.

Stand well back!

Jesus that's funny...

One year deal at Cas followed by a two year deal with Warrington (who can’t fit him under the cap in 2019, even as a marquee player).

You are perpetuating this myth that Cas have been given Gale’s whole salary and or accusing the club of bad salary cap management. You don’t know if they have or haven’t left space, and you don’t know the amount of dispensation they have asked for. Without any evidence it is guesswork and I was challenging YOUR views. I didn’t present anything I said as fact, more that you can’t comment or criticise Cas until you know the exact situation. Even then other clubs have used it before, others will use it after. It’s in the rules, everyone can do it, and we aren’t gaining any benefit from doing it.

Fair enough.

By not having it you’re penalising clubs in a sport where injuries can occur at any point through any fault of their own. It’s an immensely physical sport and I think we need a degree of flexibility. If you lost 4 players for the season in pre-season, a club could be down £400k on their cap space versus others and only be spending £1.6m on players who can actually contribute versus a club like Warrington spending £2.5m. It’s an uneven playing field and as someone else pointed that already exists with marquee salaries.

As mentioned Gale is nothing more than an off-field employee. We can’t spend more than the basic cap on players who can play this year and we are getting no benefit as Gale can’t play in 2019. We still can only spend the same amount as everyone else. If he does return we have to clear the appropriate space on our cap to be able to fit him back in and under the cap.