I'm perfectly calm, talking to idiots always has that effect on me.

Have you worked out the 14-10 thing yet???

Funny how all these armchair defenders of the sport's purity are disgusted by Wigan's appalling tactics, etc, etc,. and yet Wellens (no Wigan fan I think we can agree) was perfectly happy to give them great credit for how well they played.

Wigan played very well and they got under Leeds' skin which worked but, there a few grubby tactics going on, one late hit to the back of a player who had no chance to see it coming and one dangerous throw and a few head highs. I'm sure wigans game plan was to rough Leeds up a bit and it worked I personally found it a bit ugly .

The irony as always with Leeds is that if we decide to mix it up they play the victim and act like they have done no wrong.

yesterday was a brilliant example of 2 teams going hell for leather at each other, isn't that what people want? I wouldn't come out and say Wigan played dirty. They played aggresively. When you play aggresively there will be the odd occasion where it goes to far. Dudsons late "shot" was stupid for one and I won't shy away from that. 2 weeks ago our pack got battered by Leeds because we weren't aggressive enough and got bullied around the park. Yesterday we did the only thing we could to fix that, which was to come out all guns blazing and fight fire with fire and I don't think Leeds expected it, especially with the squad of players we had. Micky Mac is no angel and he can take it too far sometimes but when you have Leeds have the likes of Bailey in their team it makes me laugh how they can moan about Wigan. Saw a clip of Danny Mcguire intentionally kicking out at George William's chest too.. not seen much from Leeds fans about that incident though....

Re the McGuire incident he wasn't kicking out at his chest he was kicking his legs to try and get on with the PTB there really was nothing in that. But I will say McGuire was riled all game for whatever reason (maybe getting smashed in the back when not looking?) and he was being niggly a side of his game I don't like.

Bailey is a pantomime villain nothing more, I personally wouldn't be too bothered if he moved on from Leeds he did pretty much nothing all game apart from have a rubbish scrap.

as I said before Wigan got the tactics right I just thought they were ugly

I think we've put this to bed no less than three times now and you're still going on about it.



You should get a t-shirt made with "That 14-10 Thing" on it to remind you of that time a Wiganer misunderstood what you said. It's clearly an important event for you.

By putting to bed you mean trying to deflect attention away from it and never admitting you cocked up?

Duly noted.

By "a Wiganer" presumably you mean yourself? It's OK to admit you misunderstood.

I'm sure you will find it easy to 'dumb down'.

You won't do, for the same reason that no one really mentions it when it happens in countless other games. Ratboy Tomkins is a master of kicking out.

I love how they all run in and starting pushing and shoving everytime there's even the slightest hint of foul play! They conned the sky team good and proper after the McIlorum challenge on JP with even Phil Clarke shouting for a sending off.

Turns out it was only just about worthy of a penalty.

It needs looking at and the powers that be need to clamp down on them. They're inciting situations that don't need to be blown out of proportion.

Rubbish, what needs to be clamped down on is dangerous throws in a tackle and hitting players from behind without the ball, you know the things that lead to all in scuffles.

They didn't con anyone MM had just been told as captain to calm him and his players down, the very next tackle he clearly hits peacock with a high shot, he deserved everything he got.

the game was niggly all the way through, from both sides, wigan just took it a bit further by turning it into foul play, which nearly cost them the game, these getting under the skin tactics will work sometimes but not all.

Some wigan fans could do with learning how to be graceful in victory as well as defeat.

Well thats never gonna happen is it?

You're right, nobody ever mentions that...

Yeah, problem with that though is the thread title. We (well me at least) are only responding *in this thread* to that, and the associated putting-down of a great performance by Wigan. If we'd started a thread entitled 'ha, ha, rubbish Leeds lose' or whatever, you'd have a point about grace in victory. On the other hand, with Bailey in your team, few people will find it easy to be graceful when they beat you.

You can keep going on about Bailey but he's no where near as bad as other fans make out, he actually rarely does many things that can be considered 'thuggish' he tends to just run in trying to act the hard man, as I say a pantomime villain, the only 'thuggish' behaviour on saturday (which is the game in question) was from wigan, again, I think that was part of their game plan and it worked...just.

Good, i'm glad you agree that comparing a player kicking out to morons taking players out off the ball, taking players out after they've passed the ball, attacking the legs of players as third man in, head high tackles, elbows in faces on the ground and the other ****house tactics employed by Wane and Co is just laughable.

Oh shut up for God's sake.

Get over it.

Lock it.

Who are you talking to?

Get over what?

Aw, you pretend I agree with you if it makes you feel better.

Exactly. Leeds fans are hardly in a position to lecture anyone about graceful behaviour. "Dirty Wigan" and "Corruption alive and well" are two threads that sprung up the moment they lost.

You would have a point if I had started any of those threads, but I didn't. For the record what some Leeds fans post and start threads on is embarrassing. Although the thread title of this one is pretty much spot on for how Wigan played on Saturday, it paid off, it got them the win, but even as a wigan fan you must be able to see that the game plan was obviously to rub Leeds up the wrong way and play 'dirty'. so the thread title is hardly being ungracious.

Whatever makes it easier for you pal

Whatever makes what easier for me?

Your posts rarely make sense, or actually contribute to the discussion, smileys or not.