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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Couldn't they have found an indoor training complex to use over here like St George's Park for example.'"
Why would they? Why do they need to avoid going to a training camp?
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"It was a 'meanlingless game' as it wasn't a fully sanctioned International, and less than 5000 people in the RL "heartlands" could be bothered to turn up.
Had they 'trounced' Italy people would still moan about the meaningless of the vicotory, and that Italy didn't deserve a place in the RLWC and that the competition was a joke, and England would still lose against Australia.
A big no hurrah for the average fan, but I would think that McNamara, and his players, have learnt a lot from it.'"
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Couldn't they have found an indoor training complex to use over here like St George's Park for example.'"
Maybe - but given the rates on those places in the UK (and hotels), and the exchange rate with the Rand offering such value with the £, I doubt it would have constituted much of a saving.
Can't believe RL fans sometimes. If they'd gone off to a beach in Wales they would have been accused of 'doing it on the cheap, typical RFL being unprofessional', etc...
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"This sentence perfectly sums up the current state of English Rugby League.
How was it a meaningless game? It was the last game before one of the most important tournaments in recent years and the players should have been 100% switched on for it.
Would the other nations we are ranked among have taken it so lightly or would they have gone out there and shown no mercy whatsoever and trounced Italy by plenty?'"
That meaningful that Tim Sheen also thinks its immensely vital to have a warm up game before the biggest tournament of his players' lives. Oh hang on....
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Why would they? Why do they need to avoid going to a training camp?'"
Come on smokey I know you like to argue black is white but surely you must know there are plenty of quality training camps available in the UK
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Come on smokey I know you like to argue black is white but surely you must know there are plenty of quality training camps available in the UK'" And why should they use one in the UK rather than elsewhere?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"And why should they use one in the UK rather than elsewhere?'"
Or rather, why look elsewhere ???
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Or rather, why look elsewhere ???'"
No, Staying in England isnt the default position. If we stay in England it is because it is the best place to be. If it isnt, we dont. The same applies to South Africa, Timbuktu, Tierra Del Fuego, Newfoundland, Copenhagen and Tokyo.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"No, Staying in England isnt the default position. If we stay in England it is because it is the best place to be. If it isnt, we dont. The same applies to South Africa, Timbuktu, Tierra Del Fuego, Newfoundland, Copenhagen and Tokyo.'"
Do all those destinations have high altitude roofs?
It's important to take roofs into account because Cardiff has one.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Leave Steve alone! Could you forge a team unit out of players that spend the rest of te year bashing the hell out of each other? No you couldn't ! It freaking difficult. This guy got Bradford to within 80 minutes of the challenge cup final where they lost to Saints the eventual cup winners! He got bradford to within 80 mins of the grand final where they lost to hull the eventual finalists! Can you say that? No!
He's had so much to put up with an his team only got back from South Africa last week! Anyway Italy are good they have players like minnichello and lefranchi! They're coached by a guy that played in superleague! Is it any wonder we lost?
Just get behind Steve and the team they don't need people like you! I bet you claim to support England but then talk about the coach like this! LEAVE STEVE ALONE!'"
Hello, Mrs McNamara.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Do all those destinations have high altitude roofs?
It's important to take roofs into account because Cardiff has one.'"
"High altitude roofs" ???????
Well Cardiff city centre is around 12m above sea level, and the Millenium Stadium rooftop is around 30m from ground level, if that helps ???
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| I'm not as depressed as some seem to have got over this loss. But whilst everyone else was coming to the UK, our team based here have spent time journeying back and forth on planes. I really do not see the point.
If the WC was in austrailia, then I can see a point of going to a training camp part way there. If we where at altitude again aclimatize.
But it's a home tournement???
Regardless we should have won, but does not seem to be the ideal preperation from the coach, who was saying he wanted to stay on after the WC.
He's going to need a massive turn around in 7 days to get an extention.
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III":1mtehm8wHello, Mrs McNamara.'" I bet Steve's wife would treat him better than my ex. wife treated me!!!!
Steve is a top coach he knows what he's doing. Stop being negative and get behind the team!!!
Are you foreign or something?
Steve and the Team know whwere they went wrong and are working on it in training! THey learnt a lot of about what areas they needed to work on on Saturday. Leave them to do their job get off their backs!!!
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| It's too late. If they don't have the right attitude going into a warm up the week before the biggest tournament of their lives then they don't have the mentality that will allow them to be anything other than nz and Australia's whipping boys. The likes of png and Fiji will be more on England's level.
Doesn't matter what cliches sackbanana comes out with.
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| We clamour for more coverage, more coverage. Well just as the Libdems found out, be careful what you wish for as you may get it.
This is the apex of most coaches and players careers in RL. If they ain't going to get coverage now they are never going to get it.
That means shape up as any loss or drop in performance will be jumped on. They can't expect to skulk through and have no pressure.
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| If England don't put up a competitive performance against Australia (and by "competitive" I mean don't lose by more than 10 points) then the neutral or soft core fans among the TV watching public will know that the English game is qualitatively inferior to the Australian game, will switch off the rest of the tournament, and will not be interested in watching Super League in the future.
The psychology of morale is going to be key on Saturday. McNamara needs to select all his NRL experienced players because they won't be intimidated by the Aussies they have played against every week. "All" means [iincluding Gareth Widdop[/i of course.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"No, Staying in England isnt the default position. If we stay in England it is because it is the best place to be. If it isnt, we dont. The same applies to South Africa, Timbuktu, Tierra Del Fuego, Newfoundland, Copenhagen and Tokyo.'"
Guess you've never been to Newfoundland then?
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Leave Steve alone! Could you forge a team unit out of players that spend the rest of te year bashing the hell out of each other? No you couldn't ! It freaking difficult. This guy got Bradford to within 80 minutes of the challenge cup final where they lost to Saints the eventual cup winners! He got bradford to within 80 mins of the grand final where they lost to hull the eventual finalists! Can you say that? No!
He's had so much to put up with an his team only got back from South Africa last week! Anyway Italy are good they have players like minnichello and lefranchi! They're coached by a guy that played in superleague! Is it any wonder we lost?
Just get behind Steve and the team they don't need people like you! I bet you claim to support England but then talk about the coach like this! LEAVE STEVE ALONE!'"
Almighty Steve also lead you to a 7 game losing streak before being released.
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| New strategy for England to scare the Aussies.
Carry plastic spiders.
[url=http://instagram.com/p/fvZ8NYiJ3d/Gallan's never moved so fast.[/url
Jeez, and I thought Aus was the home of monster spiders hiding under every toilet seat waiting to strike. Bunch of wimps.
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| Regardless of the loss to Italy, hope spring eternal and I still have money on England to win. Fool!!!
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Leave Steve alone! Could you forge a team unit out of players that spend the rest of te year bashing the hell out of each other? No you couldn't ! It freaking difficult. This guy got Bradford to within 80 minutes of the challenge cup final where they lost to Saints the eventual cup winners! He got bradford to within 80 mins of the grand final where they lost to hull the eventual finalists! Can you say that? No!
He's had so much to put up with an his team only got back from South Africa last week! Anyway Italy are good they have players like minnichello and lefranchi! They're coached by a guy that played in superleague! Is it any wonder we lost?
Just get behind Steve and the team they don't need people like you! I bet you claim to support England but then talk about the coach like this! LEAVE STEVE ALONE!'"
Brilliant
Please tell me that was 100% sarcasm?
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| Quote ="William Eve"I'm afraid Widdop, Chase, Roby, McIlorum, Burrow, O'Loughlin et al are going to have to adapt their game to suit the demands of Sinfield and which position and role he wishes to occupy at any given time during the world cup.
That's the deal which was struck 12 months ago when McNamara offered Sinfield the skippering gig alongside unconditional selection in the England team.
Is the world's best player up to the task for England?
We shall have to wait and see.'"
I hate to reply to trolls, and in particular, you - BUT, you have hit the nail on the head perfectly there - the fact Sinfield is the captain means Mcnamara has NO CHOICE but to pick him, and pick him in one of the pivotal positions, all of which he can cover but IMO whichever one he plays in we have better players than him for that position, so in an instance wherever Sinfield plays will weaken the side in that area -yes, Leeds fans i know he's a good leader of your team and he's won lots of medals but for me that counts for nothing in a national team against better players with different kinds of players around him. I hope i am wrong and he suddenly turns into an explosive/off-the-cuff/creative influence and helps us to win the World Cup, but i have my doubts that his 'leadership skills' will be enough for a player who is key and HAS to perform way above anything he's done before.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"[Sigh I bet Steve's wife would treat him better than my ex. wife treated me!!!!
Steve is a top coach he knows what he's doing. Stop being negative and get behind the team!!!
Are you foreign or something?
Steve and the Team know whwere they went wrong and are working on it in training! THey learnt a lot of about what areas they needed to work on on Saturday. Leave them to do their job get off their backs!!!'"
Sorry Steve.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"If England don't put up a competitive performance against Australia (and by "competitive" I mean don't lose by more than 10 points) then the neutral or soft core fans among the TV watching public will know that the English game is qualitatively inferior to the Australian game, will switch off the rest of the tournament, and will not be interested in watching Super League in the future.
The psychology of morale is going to be key on Saturday. McNamara needs to select all his NRL experienced players because they won't be intimidated by the Aussies they have played against every week. "All" means [iincluding Gareth Widdop[/i of course.'"
How can you definitivley come to that conclusion?
England got walloped 36-0 by SA in the 2007 RU WC in the first pool game.England Soccer team walloped 4-1 by the Germans (should have been worse) in the second round of the 2010 WC.Dont reckon it made a ripple on either competition, or sport.
England do of course need to compete to some degree.A repeat of the 50 odd point drubbing in the last WC would be a disaster and unacceptable on all levels, but a performance along the lines of the two 2011 four nations games should have no short term effect on the competition.Even the majority of the soft core fans will be aware of the class of the Kangaroo team and the challenge that faces England IMO.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"[Sigh I bet Steve's wife would treat him better than my ex. wife treated me!!!!
Steve is a top coach he knows what he's doing. Stop being negative and get behind the team!!!
Are you foreign or something?
Steve and the Team know whwere they went wrong and are working on it in training! THey learnt a lot of about what areas they needed to work on on Saturday. Leave them to do their job get off their backs!!!'"
Exactly what evidence are you using to prove he is both a top coach and knows what he is doing?
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