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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Please explain your correlation.
I can't see what you are implying from my post
Sorry for not getting it.'"
Quote After this World Cup debacle does it matter? '" Yes. It does. Why would a poor performance by the National team mean domestic results are no longer important?
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| The usual lot will battle out the play offs apart from Rovers taking the place of Catalans.
Also I think Rovers will be pumped for the Challenge Cup and with a bit of luck in the draw will lift the challenge cup.
Hull Fc will struggle and do battle with salford/celtic for the wooden spoon.
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| Your obviously bound to say that. With the $h!t you come out with!
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| Quote ="cab man"The usual lot will battle out the play offs apart from Rovers taking the place of Catalans.
Also I think Rovers will be pumped for the Challenge Cup and with a bit of luck in the draw will lift the challenge cup.
Hull Fc will struggle and do battle with salford/celtic for the wooden spoon.'" I am hazzarding a guess that you are a Hull KR fan
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| Quote ="Wes Hooligan"Yes. It does. Why would a poor performance by the National team mean domestic results are no longer important?'"
Now I understand what you are getting at.
Thanks for the clarification.
I think it's more of a misunderstanding between what I thought I wrote and what you think I wrote meant and yes it can be interpreted both ways I suppose.
Of course domestic RL counts
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"How much deviation has there been and then apply to the top 6 but your point since 2003 is noted.
And of course all this means we have a very intensive competition and can produce teams for tests that compete and regularly wallop the Aussies.
Sorry for not seeing the obvious.'"
Wow. Your comprehension skills are really poor, aren't they? It's almost as though you're a bot programmed to recognise a word/phrase and then to write a stock 'response', as often as not completely unrelated to the content of the original comment.
My point was that, despite your assertion that the 'top four' are virtually nailed on, they haven't actually finished in those positions for a (relatively) long time, suggesting those positions aren't quite as easy to predict as you assume. I made no mention of the strength of the competition, the strength of the international team or the strength of anything else, apart from your particularly weak argument.
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| Quote ="rhino77"Leeds
Celtic
Salford
Castleford
Huddersfield
Wakefield
Harlequins
Catalans
Hull FC
Warrington
Wigan
Bradford
Saints
Hull KR'"
With Crusaders winning the Grand Final with a 60 yard Tony Duggan try. I can see it now.
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"With Crusaders winning the Grand Final with a 60 yard Tony Duggan try. I can see it now.
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Celtic v Salford, grand final for 2 years in a row. But in different leagues
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"Wow. Your comprehension skills are really poor, aren't they? It's almost as though you're a bot programmed to recognise a word/phrase and then to write a stock 'response', as often as not completely unrelated to the content of the original comment.
My point was that, despite your assertion that the 'top four' are virtually nailed on, they haven't actually finished in those positions for a (relatively) long time, suggesting those positions aren't quite as easy to predict as you assume. I made no mention of the strength of the competition, the strength of the international team or the strength of anything else, apart from your particularly weak argument.'"
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| Quote ="cab man"The usual lot will battle out the play offs apart from Rovers taking the place of Catalans.
Also I think Rovers will be pumped for the Challenge Cup and with a bit of luck in the draw will lift the challenge cup.
Hull Fc will struggle and do battle with salford/celtic for the wooden spoon.'"
no doubt you will be doing the pumping
havn't seen anything in rovers signings that will improve them next season, only fozzard adds a little extra, providing he stays injury free
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"Wow. Your comprehension skills are really poor, aren't they? It's almost as though you're a bot programmed to recognise a word/phrase and then to write a stock 'response', as often as not completely unrelated to the content of the original comment.
My point was that, despite your assertion that the 'top four' are virtually nailed on, they haven't actually finished in those positions for a (relatively) long time, suggesting those positions aren't quite as easy to predict as you assume. I made no mention of the strength of the competition, the strength of the international team or the strength of anything else, apart from your particularly weak argument.'"
take away the SC deductions and they finished top 4 in 2007, and three of those four have finished top 4 in every season of SL,
only 5 clubs have contested a grandfinal, and only four have contested more than 1, and those 4 have contested every single GF bar 2006, when the other club, Hull made their one and only GF
its a pretty damning indictment of how competitive SL is
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| A deluded Hull KR fan!
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"A deluded Hull KR fan!'"
That rich coming from someone deluded enough to think Hull can rise from 11th to 4th!
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| Quote ="Alphabetti Spaghetti Go!"That rich coming from someone deluded enough to think Hull can rise from 11th to 4th!'"
So you honestly think Hull would of still finished 11th without the injuries!
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"So you honestly think Hull would of still finished 11th without the injuries!
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NEWSFlash - All teams get injuries. The trick is to employ a coaching team that adapts and copes, not uses it as a season-long excuse.
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| Quote ="Alphabetti Spaghetti Go!"NEWSFlash - All teams get injuries. The trick is to employ a coaching team that adapts and copes, not uses it as a season-long excuse.'"
Name me the last team to have the first choice halves play only 20 minutes together all season!
No excuse but a damn good reason as to why we came 11th.
Watch how we go next year. If this is wrong put some money on us being bottom 3.....bet you dont!
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"take away the SC deductions and they finished top 4 in 2007,'"
Take away the other 8 teams in the league and they've been in the top four every year, forever. Take away those four teams and they've never been in the top four. Take away points earned whilst cheating the cap and at least one of those teams would have been relegated. I'm not sure why you'd want to do any of those things though, just as I'm not sure why you'd want to alter the league in 2007 to reflect an inaccurate representation of events.
Quote ="SmokeyTA"and three of those four have finished top 4 in every season of SL,
only 5 clubs have contested a grandfinal, and only four have contested more than 1, and those 4 have contested every single GF bar 2006, when the other club, Hull made their one and only GF
its a pretty damning indictment of how competitive SL is'"
All true, yet, equally, all irrelevant to anything I've written on this thread.
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"Take away the other 8 teams in the league and they've been in the top four every year, forever. Take away those four teams and they've never been in the top four. Take away points earned whilst cheating the cap and at least one of those teams would have been relegated. I'm not sure why you'd want to do any of those things though, just as I'm not sure why you'd want to alter the league in 2007 to reflect an inaccurate representation of events.'"
the SC deductions were from offences committed in 2006, not 2007,
on a matter of quality the big 4 were the top 4 in 2007,
if anything removing 4 points from wigan altered the league to give an inaccurate representation of events, you tried to make a point that the top4 wasnt 'nailed' on because it hadnt happened for 5 years, when that wasnt true, it happened 1 year ago but points deductions artificially altered the league
Quote All true, yet, equally, all irrelevant to anything I've written on this thread.'"
Leaguefan made a point that part of SLs problem is that it isnt competitive and there is little deviation at the top end. These results are evidence of that
to pretend the big 4 dont dominate the league, when at least 3 have finished top 4 in ever year of SL is just wrong
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