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| Quote ="Saddened!"Not at all, he simply can't see that coming. If you're going to play the reckless card, every player who is aggressive in contact or runs the ball in hard is also reckless. Example a player running a ball in from a drop out. They often run as hard and fast as they can into the defenders. That's reckless. There have been several similar incidents in games this season and none were penalties or bans.'"
And people wonder why RL has gone soft and lost its appeal. Case in point, Billy Slater looking at missing the NRL grand final. Soon it will just be a game of tag
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| Quote ="Saddened!"He didn't do anything wrong. He's running into smash him with a big and perfectly pegal hit and he's tackled and falls. How can he predict that? Are you seriously saying players can't move forward or stand in front of the ball carrier now in case the ball carrier falls and hits his head on them?
Worst challenge in the game was Mike Cooper on Bentley.'"
When you look at the other camera angle it was more of a collision than a reckless tackle, if Roberts hadn't been going downwards from the tackle a couple of seconds earlier then Lees would have smashed him. I don't see how Lees could have made a split second prediction on what the outcome is going to be.
What annoys me most is that Lomax gets clobbered with this type of tackle every week and it never gets punished, I though Cooper and Westwood went beyond borderline with some of there tackles today.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"When you look at the other camera angle it was more of a collision than a reckless tackle, if Roberts hadn't been going downwards from the tackle a couple of seconds earlier then Lees would have smashed him. I don't see how Lees could have made a split second prediction on what the outcome is going to be.
What annoys me most is that Lomax gets clobbered with this type of tackle every week and never gets punished, I though Cooper and Westwood went beyond borderline with some of there tackles today.'"
Inferior teams do tend to toe the thuggish line
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Inferior teams do tend to toe the thuggish line
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Well, in that case we'll have to wait and see if the disciplinary panel believe that Stains are thuggish and inferior.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"What annoys me most is that Lomax gets clobbered with this type of tackle every week and it never gets punished'"
Lomax gets a knee to the back of the head/neck every week?
We really do need new officials in that case.
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| Funnily enough, no one seems to mentioning the fact that Goodwin had to stop for treatment in the second half after falling into Peyrouxs knee taking the ball out from their own line.
Also surprised Pattons ultra late elbow into Richardson’s face when he was pushed into touch at the start of the second half hasn’t been mentioned yet either.
Westwood and Hill got smashed by Thompson and Knowles and were spoiling for a fight and ran in the first chance they got. It was weak refereeing to referee the reaction not the incident. That being said, fully expect Lees to get a game from the disciplinary to “support” the refs decision...
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| Saints fans: imagine if it was John Bateman doing this.
Not intentional, but nevertheless - reckless & dangerous contact with the knee to the head/neck. If the rules are applied he misses game time.
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| Strikes with knee in tackle. Grade D-E, 3-8 matches.
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| Quote ="silver2"Strikes with knee in tackle. Grade D-E, 3-8 matches.'"
I think we are in Benny Westwood territory here.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"I think we are in Benny Westwood territory here.'"
In the swamp with Princess Fiona & Donkey?
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| Quote ="Cronus"In the swamp with Princess Fiona & Donkey?'"
Why am I thinking Ratchford and Atkins here!!!
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| Lee's challenge was accidental but also the culmination of every Saints player looking to belt anyone who took the ball in after Cooper smashed Bentley. They took it personal and made it their mission to deck the Warrington team. The offload to Roberts came from a smash hit and then they were all looking for Roberts who bumped off one defender, and got grabbed by another round the legs. Lee's was looking to smash Roberts just like the rest of the team but this time he fell and Lee's caught him awkwardly.
Unfortunate but the card was needed to diffuse things. If that had gone unpunished then it would have carried on throughout the match decending into team brawls every 10 minutes instead of the one that happened. There is a lot that needs looking at in the game as is.
Patton late on Richardson.
Cooper's hit was dubious.
The brawl had some furious punches thrown.
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| Right, so Lees is meant to predict that Roberts is going to fall in a split second? And there’s nothing reckless about it, he goes to make the tackle and Roberts’ head catches Lees’ knee.
If anyone’s getting a ban it’s Mike Cooper for that shoulder charge on Bentley. Warrington were a joke yesterday with cheap, late hits. Goodwin, Patton and Westwood all guilty of that. Have to laugh at Kevin Brown running 20 yards to shove Richardson. Pathetic really, wouldn’t see him doing that to any of the big lads.
On the game itself, Warrington are a poor side and have no idea with the ball against any good defence. The only side out of the top 4 who have no chance of winning the Grand Final.
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| Roberts is knocked out on the floor. Lees is lay on top of Roberts. Brainboxes Westwood and Hill decide it'd be a good idea to start a scrap over a bloke who's just been whacked in the head.
Smart pair.
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| It's ridiculous just how biased towards Dire Eddie Hemmings is.
And when Warrington are losing he always has plenty of excuses up his sleeve for them.
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| I thought Eddie supports Widnes?
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| Quote ="JonnoTheGreat"It's ridiculous just how biased towards Dire Eddie Hemmings is.
And when Warrington are losing he always has plenty of excuses up his sleeve for them.'"
I've lost count of the number of sad fecks obsessed with the various teams who Eddie supposedly supports.
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| Quote ="SecondRowSaint"Roberts is knocked out on the floor. Lees is lay on top of Roberts. Brainboxes Westwood and Hill decide it'd be a good idea to start a scrap over a bloke who's just been whacked in the head.
Smart pair.'"
Its taken a while, but gradually you're getting there. Roberts was knocked out and he was whacked in the head and Lees was on the scene. All you need to do now is to put those three clues together...
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| No charges from the game. Ridiculous really, Cooper should have been banned for a clear shoulder charge.
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| Quote ="silver2"Its taken a while, but gradually you're getting there. Roberts was knocked out and he was whacked in the head and Lees was on the scene. All you need to do now is to put those three clues together...'"
You haven't got a clue have you?
What really needs addressing is how Wells is allowed to preach his nonsense ons Sky aimed entirely at getting a player from one of Cas's rivals banned. When Phil Clark of all people has to pull you up about the inconsistency of your 'expert' opinion you know somethings wrong.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"You haven't got a clue have you?
What really needs addressing is how Wells is allowed to preach his nonsense ons Sky aimed entirely at getting a player from one of Cas's rivals banned. When Phil Clark of all people has to pull you up about the inconsistency of your 'expert' opinion you know somethings wrong.'"
I think Warrington have failed on all fronts, there were 4 attempts to injure Richardson in the game on Saturday, so for Lees to be innocent is a bit of justice.
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| Quote ="AS108"No charges from the game. Ridiculous really, Cooper should have been banned for a clear shoulder charge.'"
50% correct. Must try harder.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"I think Warrington have failed on all fronts, there were 4 attempts to injure Richardson in the game on Saturday, so for Lees to be innocent is a bit of justice.'"
I'd love to see the maths behind that statement. With that kind of logic you'd be a shoe in for the Disciplinary panel. If Lees is innocent does that mean the referee was wrong to yellow card him?
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| I think the question would be, if the Lees incident was worthy of a penalty and yellow card, then why wasn't Peyroux sin-binned in the second half? Or why was O Loughlin sin-binned for a similar incident is the St Helens vs Wigan game last month?
The only difference was that Lees ran in to the collision, which is not an offence nor is reckless in my view.
For what it's worth, I don't think any of the incidents referred to above were worthy of yellow cards.
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| Quote ="silver2"I'd love to see the maths behind that statement. With that kind of logic you'd be a shoe in for the Disciplinary panel. If Lees is innocent does that mean the referee was wrong to yellow card him?'"
Would have been a red card if Jon Wells was in charge of the game. I assume the ref being inexperienced wanted to take the heat out of the game.
Hopefully Lees will put a big hit on Roberts early in the semi final game, that would really blow Hill,s gasket.
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