Tomkins
Briscoe
Yeaman
Carmont/Welham
King
Briers
Dureau
Graham
Roby
Lynch
Manu
Hoffman
O'Donnell



I realise that I have put in 3 Hull Fc players, which may look like bias, but Manu, Yeaman and Briscoe have been immense this season.

I'm just glad you haven't put O'Loughlin in. When will people realise he is decidedly average.

I agree with Code, look at players like Sinfield who IMO and from what i saw through a few games has carried Leeds' offence by himself.

O Loughlin doesnt appear to do much when ive had the chance to see him on Sky.

Tomkins
Hall
King
Yeaman
Briscoe
Briers
Dureau
Graham
Roby
Carvell
Hoffman
Westwood
Sinfield

1 Tomkins
2 Briscoe
3 Atkins
4 Camont
5 McGilvary
6 Chase
7 Leuluai
8 Graham
9 Roby (M Monaghan isn't far behind the likes of Roby, Tomkins and Chase for MoS though)
10 P Wood
11 JJB
12 Manu
13 Wilkin

I can't understand why anyone would not select Rangi Chase

Roby vs Monaghan will split opinion. Two of the top performers in the league.

I'd like to put forward Francis Meli. A real threat for Saints setting up a lot of tries for foster with good running and slick hands.

Carvell is another one that's been in cracking form whenever I've seen him.

Andy Wilson of the Guardian made that point too, difficult to see who he'd displace though. For me it'd be -

Tomkins
Hall
Yeaman
Carmont
Briscoe
Chase
Dureau
Graham
Monaghan (just)
Carvell
Hoffman
Westwood
O'Loughlin

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Tom Briscoe
3. Kirk Yeaman
4. George Carmont
5. Matt King
6. Rangi Chase
7. Scott Dureau
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Andy Lynch
11. Willie Manu
12. Ben Westwood
13. Sean O'Loughlin

Just missing out: Tommy L, M & J Monaghan, Charnley, Hoffman, Paletua & Jarrod Hickey

Well, everyone has their opinions


What is important for me is that people consider this year's form only, rather than a player's reputation as a whole.

Centres are a problem. Cudjoe or put King to Centre and then Monaghan on the wing.
Fitzy or beaver at LF. Both have been awesome.
It's a shame Huby got injured. Him and Graham were the best 2 props in the league up to easter.

I don't understand how English players in the SL Dream Team wouldn't be a shoe-in for the England side? Yet there are people that have been selected by many (Kirk Yeaman and Andy Lynch) that most likely will not get selected.

Tomkins
Briscoe
Yeaman
Meli
King
Chase
Dureau
Graham
Roby
Mossop
Hoffman
Wilkin
O'Loughlin

I thought the point of the Dream Team was to select the best 13 from the competition based on the position they have played rather than just the ‘best team’. I thought that King had played most of the year on the wing so can’t really move him to centre for a Dream Team spot

Yea you are right. Just seems we have more decent wingers than centres and as King played most of his career to date in the centre it didn't seem like bending the rules that much.

I can.
Welham would be a good example. Had fantastic form for the season in SL, scoring and creating lots, but playing in SL is not like playing the Aussies. Perhaps the international selection would be better going to a less spectacular, but safer player.

I've played with plenty of players who look the bees knees ripping it up against the bottom half of the league, but aren't worth a when they're up against it.

I think it is quite the opposite and Wellens is a perfect example – a player can be great week in week out in the Super League but doesn’t have that extra level that you need in International football. With Wellens, it was a lack of pace that the Aussies and Kiwi’s exploited – usually with his kick returns

We don’t need safe in international football, we need match winners

Quote ="Ande"I agree with Code, look at players like Sinfield who IMO and from what i saw through a few games has carried Leeds' offence by himself. O Loughlin doesnt appear to do much when ive had the chance to see him on Sky.'" Sinfield has been playing stand-off all season so I think he's only eligible for that spot. Don't they go off the position you've played the most games in? Sure I read that last year. O 'Loughlin is more grafting type of 13, which shows in a statistical comparision with Sinfield (who is listed as a stand off btw) www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 11&hp2=263

Quote ="Ande"I agree with Code, look at players like Sinfield who IMO and from what i saw through a few games has carried Leeds' offence by himself. O Loughlin doesnt appear to do much when ive had the chance to see him on Sky.'" Sinfield has been playing stand-off all season so I think he's only eligible for that spot. Don't they go off the position you've played the most games in? Sure I read that last year. O 'Loughlin is more grafting type of 13, which shows in a statistical comparision with Sinfield (who is listed as a stand off btw) www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 11&hp2=263

Here's my team btw

Tomkins
Briscoe
Welham
Carmont
McGilveray
Chase
Dureau
Graham
Monaghan
Lynch
Westwood
Wilkin
O' Loughlin

Tough call between Monaghan and Roby at 9. Ended up flipping a coin on it. Seriously!

I do agree that playing (over) safe (for instance picking loose forwards at 6) is not the way forward.

The point I'm trying to make is demostrated by, say, Ben Westwood compared to Jon Wilkin. Wilkin is like Roy of the Rovers for Saints, but has struggled to step up to the extra physicality of International footy.
The straightforward Westwood had to wait quite a while for his chance behind the fancydan likes of Wilkin, but has proved an undoubted success at that level. In fact I sometimes think he plays even better at international than he does at club level.

Wilkin isn't alone in that respect, which is part of the problem that English RL has had for some time. There are plenty of players who have been superstars domestically but can't do it in an England jersey

Exactly, the key to selection will be finding the Westwoods, who can step up with relish.

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Pat Richards
3. George Carmont
4. Matt King
5. Tom Briscoe
6. Rangi Chase
7. Thomas Leuluai
8. Adrian Morley
9. James Roby
10. James Graham
11. Ben Westwood
12. Ryan Hoffman
13. Sean Oloughlin

1. Tomkins
2. Briscoe
3. Yeaman
4. Carmont
5. McGillvray
6. Chase
7. Dureau

8. Graham
9.Roby
10.Carvell
11. Menzies
12. Westwood
13. Wilkin

How people forget about Menzies, colossus for Catalans and also McGillvray at Hudds has done a fantastic job, it was a choice between him or Charnley for me in that position and also Wilkin has been beyond good for Saints this season.

I prefer chilli sauce. If he can step up with that then he's in my team.