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| Will there be the same parking as usual or will there be more with no rugby at the Galpharm on SDRL Conference day. I would also expect more input from the Head Office of our games ruling body......maybe it's true what we think, we just the cash cows in their thoughts......grannyfan Cindy
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| Quote ="mrs cindy russell"Will there be the same parking as usual or will there be more with no rugby at the Galpharm on SDRL Conference day. I would also expect more input from the Head Office of our games ruling body......maybe it's true what we think, we just the cash cows in their thoughts......grannyfan Cindy'"
Noooo less input from Redhall.
more input from fans!!!!
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| Quote ="mrs cindy russell"Will there be the same parking as usual or will there be more with no rugby at the Galpharm on SDRL Conference day. I would also expect more input from the Head Office of our games ruling body......maybe it's true what we think, we just the cash cows in their thoughts......grannyfan Cindy'"
There is limited free parking available at The George Hotel as well as numerous pay parking facilities around the town centre. Huddersfield Town have an away match on October 9th so it is reasonable to expect that anyone wishing to park at the Stadium and walk to the Hotel would be able to do so although obviously I cannot confirm that as it is a different venue.
It's important to note that whilst the RFL are supportive of my role with Supporters Direct and do indeed put some funding into it (along with The Coop Group), Supporters Direct is a very separate organisation and this event is not in any way being run by the RFL.
Its true, that many clubs do look upon their supporters as merely fundraisers and this is something Supporters Direct are trying to address by increasing supporter representation and influence within rugby league.
Cheers, Laura
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Last Few Places Available for RL Conference
A small number of places are still available for Supporters Directs first ever rugby league conference, to be held at The George Hotel Huddersfield on Saturday October 9th.
The conference, which brings together supporters, players and journalists from across rugby league, aims to show the positive differences that can be made to the game through greater supporter involvement and representation.
Laura Harrison, Rugby League Development Officer for Supporters Direct said of the conference: “What we’re trying to do is show people that there is an alternative to the boom and bust model we see so much of these days. We want clubs to see that by working with supporters rather than keeping them at a distance, huge developments can be made both on and off the field and clubs can become more sustainable and community focussed and we want supporters to see that only by beginning to question how clubs are being run can we actually begin to put an end to it.”
Following on from the recent announcement that Robbie Paul will be attending the conference, Supporters Direct are pleased to announce that further presentations will come from Neil Kelly, Foundation Director at Warrington Wolves and Chris Thair from the RFL plus a number of current supporters trusts including Hornets Rugby League, Trust in Widnes and Swansea City FC.
Anyone wishing to attend the conference is urged to register as soon as possible via the Supporters Direct website at [urlhttp://www.supporters-direct.org[/url. Alternatively you can contact Laura Harrison on Laura.Harrison@supporters-direct.org
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Last Few Places Available for RL Conference
A small number of places are still available for Supporters Directs first ever rugby league conference, to be held at The George Hotel Huddersfield on Saturday October 9th.
The conference, which brings together supporters, players and journalists from across rugby league, aims to show the positive differences that can be made to the game through greater supporter involvement and representation.
Laura Harrison, Rugby League Development Officer for Supporters Direct said of the conference: “What we’re trying to do is show people that there is an alternative to the boom and bust model we see so much of these days. We want clubs to see that by working with supporters rather than keeping them at a distance, huge developments can be made both on and off the field and clubs can become more sustainable and community focussed and we want supporters to see that only by beginning to question how clubs are being run can we actually begin to put an end to it.”
Following on from the recent announcement that Robbie Paul will be attending the conference, Supporters Direct are pleased to announce that further presentations will come from Neil Kelly, Foundation Director at Warrington Wolves and Chris Thair from the RFL plus a number of current supporters trusts including Hornets Rugby League, Trust in Widnes and Swansea City FC.
Anyone wishing to attend the conference is urged to register as soon as possible via the Supporters Direct website at [urlhttp://www.supporters-direct.org[/url. Alternatively you can contact Laura Harrison on Laura.Harrison@supporters-direct.org
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| Quote ="SD1"Laura Harrison, Rugby League Development Officer for Supporters Direct said of the conference: “What we’re trying to do is show people that there is an alternative to the boom and bust model we see so much of these days. We want clubs to see that by working with supporters rather than keeping them at a distance, huge developments can be made both on and off the field and clubs can become more sustainable and community focussed and we want supporters to see that only by beginning to question how clubs are being run can we actually begin to put an end to it.”'"
Laura,
[size=110 I applaud what you are trying to achieve.[/size
The key however will always be the willingness of the people running the Clubs to genuinely foster a meaningful two-way relationship.
Sadly, that was not my experience ... the Trust I was involved in was not treated with the respect it deserved (you are aware of some of the issues). When committee members have full time jobs and they are trying to help a Club in their spare time and often giving more time than they really should, the last thing they want in return is 'smoke and mirrors'.
I am sure there are many examples where things have worked so much better and sincerely hope that my experiences and those of another Trust we met last year are those of the minority.
[size=110 Wishing you every success with the Conference.[/size
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The key however will always be the willingness of the people running the Clubs to genuinely foster a meaningful two-way relationship.
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This is pretty insignificant really, the directors are not the club, if the directors arent interested in the trust then you have to become so big and strong that they have no choice but to let you in.
Often when directors have no interest in the supporters trust, its not long before the directors are leaving the club......
sometimes, you can drop lucky and get a set of directors who understand the needs of the trust, and sometimes you don't, but at no point should the trust give up due to lack of acknowledgement from the directors. You have to make it so they sit up and listen..............
If enough of the fans are behind the trust then things will move in the right direction eventually, but sometimes, these things take time.
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| Quote ="Sadfish"This is pretty insignificant really, the directors are not the club, if the directors arent interested in the trust then you have to become so big and strong that they have no choice but to let you in.
Often when directors have no interest in the supporters trust, its not long before the directors are leaving the club......
sometimes, you can drop lucky and get a set of directors who understand the needs of the trust, and sometimes you don't, but at no point should the trust give up due to lack of acknowledgement from the directors. You have to make it so they sit up and listen..............
If enough of the fans are behind the trust then things will move in the right direction eventually, but sometimes, these things take time.'"
Some fair points indeed ...
The Club concerned has two owners (with the CEO being the major shareholder!)
You're certainly right about some things taking time ... I hope ultimately that the fans can become influential with this Club but I fear that will not be the case for some time yet (if ever).
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| Quote ="Wanderer"Some fair points indeed ...
The Club concerned has two owners (with the CEO being the major shareholder!)
You're certainly right about some things taking time ... I hope ultimately that the fans can become influential with this Club but I fear that will not be the case for some time yet (if ever).'"
Well what will be will be, if the fans care enough and there is enough sentiment amongst them to make a change, then change will come, otherwise, change either isn't needed or there is not enough support base in the town to wield enough power.
Supporters Direct are there to help you, I know we had to do all this before supporters direct came about , in fact I remember me and Cliff Spracklen at a Supporters Direct Meeting when Bramley didn't even exist, and his words struct huge chords amongst the soccer trusts.
The gist of his speech was that Bramley existed only as a set of supporters, it has no pitch, no players, no club, but the supporters still existed and it wasa they who eventually got the club playing again.
Anyhow, there are huge levels of difference in each club, what works for one doesn't for another, get along to the SD conference and learn some new tricks!
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| Quote ="mrs cindy russell"=#FF0000Will there be the same parking as usual or will there be more with no rugby at the Galpharm on SDRL Conference day. I would also expect more input from the Head Office of our games ruling body......maybe it's true what we think, we just the cash cows in their thoughts......grannyfan Cindy'"
If parking is a problem can a suggest the conference is transferred to Leigh RL .... there's plenty of parking there, especially on match days
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| Quote ="Sadfish"This is pretty insignificant really, the directors are not the club, if the directors arent interested in the trust then you have to become so big and strong that they have no choice but to let you in.
Often when directors have no interest in the supporters trust, its not long before the directors are leaving the club......
sometimes, you can drop lucky and get a set of directors who understand the needs of the trust, and sometimes you don't, but at no point should the trust give up due to lack of acknowledgement from the directors. You have to make it so they sit up and listen..............
If enough of the fans are behind the trust then things will move in the right direction eventually, but sometimes, these things take time.'"
All fair points but speaking to numereous fans over the past few years who have become dissatisfied with the way the game is going they are not at odds with their own particular boards. My own club for instance where the Directors are first and foremost fans ,doing their best trying to keep up with the ever moving goalposts .Most fans find the bigest threat to their club to come from the body who you would think was their to support them .The made up franchise system rules, promotion and religation (or lack of it) uneven share out of monies and if your anything lower than Super League the RFL are not interested are these things going to be addressed at the meeting?
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| Quote ="johnny freeman fan club"All fair points but speaking to numereous fans over the past few years who have become dissatisfied with the way the game is going they are not at odds with their own particular boards. My own club for instance where the Directors are first and foremost fans ,doing their best trying to keep up with the ever moving goalposts .Most fans find the bigest threat to their club to come from the body who you would think was their to support them .The made up franchise system rules, promotion and religation (or lack of it) uneven share out of monies and if your anything lower than Super League the RFL are not interested are these things going to be addressed at the meeting?'"
I'm not privvy to the agenda for the meeting, however, all your points are valid issues surrounding our game, some think good, some bad, ultimately though, not every club needs a trust per sé, not every club is the same as the next, but every club has the same Rugby League fans, i'm sure if you attend the meeting you will meet people who are more and less up to speed with the workings within the game than you are, but most of all you will learn a lot from sharing your own issues and ideas for the game amongst similar minded people, albeit from different angles of the game.
I urge anyone with ideas and comments about the game a whole to attend if they can and offer their own experiences up at the meeting.
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| Quote ="johnny freeman fan club"All fair points but speaking to numereous fans over the past few years who have become dissatisfied with the way the game is going they are not at odds with their own particular boards. My own club for instance where the Directors are first and foremost fans ,doing their best trying to keep up with the ever moving goalposts .Most fans find the bigest threat to their club to come from the body who you would think was their to support them .The made up franchise system rules, promotion and religation (or lack of it) uneven share out of monies and if your anything lower than Super League the RFL are not interested are these things going to be addressed at the meeting?'"
There are obviously a number of issues in the game that affect all clubs, regardless of the league they play in and these are definitely issues we would like to look at down the line. We encourage all supporters trusts to develop as big a membership as possible in order to strengthen their voice and as the umbrella organisation, it is the same for us. We need to develop a larger network of trusts in order to strengthen our voice as only by representing a good proportion of supporters will we realistically be able to tackle the bigger issues in the game.
We also need to ensure that rather than simply being unhappy and complaining about things not working, we put forward sensible, workable ideas that can be implemented throughout the game.
So, in short, the conference won't be focussing solely on the issues you have mentioned above but they are certainly something on our radar for the future. This first conference is about showcasing what Supporters Direct is about and showing the variety of things supporters trusts can do.
It's also worth noting that at the end of this year there is going to be a consultation period focussed on the Championships, similar to the one recently held around the community game. As part of the consultation, SD will be submitting proposals to the RFL and everyone attending the conference will have the opportunity to put their ideas forward. I plan to include as many of these as possible in our proposal.
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We also need to ensure that rather than simply being unhappy and complaining about things not working, we put forward sensible, workable ideas that can be implemented throughout the game.
So, in short, the conference won't be focussing solely on the issues you have mentioned above but they are certainly something on our radar for the future. This first conference is about showcasing what Supporters Direct is about and showing the variety of things supporters trusts can do.
It's also worth noting that at the end of this year there is going to be a consultation period focussed on the Championships, similar to the one recently held around the community game. As part of the consultation, SD will be submitting proposals to the RFL and everyone attending the conference will have the opportunity to put their ideas forward. I plan to include as many of these as possible in our proposal.'"
Oh well that `s a relief then, glad to hear we will all be able to give our views about the way the RFL are slowly reducing the Championship clubs to merely feeders for the Super League. One thing I would like to know is why us "mere mortals" never get to hear what is on the agenda at these RFL away days so we could all have an input. We have got to stop leting them just alter the rules to whoever they want in .We are just asking for a level playing field for us all ,each club is just as important as the next.
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Rimmer Steps up for SD
Incoming Chief Operating Officer for the RFL, Ralph Rimmer has been confirmed as the latest speaker in the line up for the first ever Supporters Direct rugby league conference.
Rimmer, who takes up his new role on October 11th has stepped in to cover for original speaker, Chris Thair who has unfortunately had to pull out of the event. He will be speaking about his role with the RFL and offering his take on supporter involvement in the game.
Ralph will be joined by previously announced speakers, Robbie Paul, Danny Lockwood, Martyn Cheney and Jason McCartney along with Neil Kelly, Foundation Director at Warrington Wolves and a number of supporters trusts from across the movement.
Rugby League: An Alternative Future takes place at The George Hotel Huddersfield on Saturday October 9th and aims to show supporters how they can influence the future of the game by increasing their own involvement.
There are still a few places remaining for the conference and anyone interested in attending is urged to register as soon as possible so as not to be disappointed. The conference is free to attend and is open to anyone with an interest in rugby league. To register please visit the Supporters Direct website at [urlhttp://www.supporters-direct.org[/url or for more information, please contact Rugby League Supporters Trusts Development Officer Laura Harrison on Laura.Harrison@supporters-direct.org
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Rimmer Steps up for SD
Incoming Chief Operating Officer for the RFL, Ralph Rimmer has been confirmed as the latest speaker in the line up for the first ever Supporters Direct rugby league conference.
Rimmer, who takes up his new role on October 11th has stepped in to cover for original speaker, Chris Thair who has unfortunately had to pull out of the event. He will be speaking about his role with the RFL and offering his take on supporter involvement in the game.
Ralph will be joined by previously announced speakers, Robbie Paul, Danny Lockwood, Martyn Cheney and Jason McCartney along with Neil Kelly, Foundation Director at Warrington Wolves and a number of supporters trusts from across the movement.
Rugby League: An Alternative Future takes place at The George Hotel Huddersfield on Saturday October 9th and aims to show supporters how they can influence the future of the game by increasing their own involvement.
There are still a few places remaining for the conference and anyone interested in attending is urged to register as soon as possible so as not to be disappointed. The conference is free to attend and is open to anyone with an interest in rugby league. To register please visit the Supporters Direct website at [urlhttp://www.supporters-direct.org[/url or for more information, please contact Rugby League Supporters Trusts Development Officer Laura Harrison on Laura.Harrison@supporters-direct.org
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| Quote ="Cassandra"Oh well that `s a relief then, glad to hear we will all be able to give our views about the way the RFL are slowly reducing the Championship clubs to merely feeders for the Super League. One thing I would like to know is why us "mere mortals" never get to hear what is on the agenda at these RFL away days so we could all have an input. We have got to stop leting them just alter the rules to whoever they want in .We are just asking for a level playing field for us all ,each club is just as important as the next.'"
As stated previously, the Supporters Direct conference is not an RFL event. We are a completely separate organisation looking to bring about positive changes in rugby league and other spectator sports by working with supporters.
Yes I work quite closely with the RFL and my role is part-funded by them but we are not owned by them nor are we part of the same organisation.
As has been stated on numerous occasions, this conference is and always has been open to anyone with an interest in rugby league so any of the "mere mortals" you make reference to are more than welcome to come along provided they have registered on the Supporters Direct website at [urlhttp://www.supporters-direct.org[/url. As things stand, the number of delegates is looking very healthy at the moment and we may well reach capacity before the conference date.
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| Pleased to announce that all available places for the conference have now been taken and registration is now closed.
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Some really good speakers, topics and conversation.
The next year should be interesting to say the least.
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| I d like to echo those words.
Really interesting event, real broad spread of the game represented.
Hopefully a lot of positives can be drawn from it.
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| So when is the next one ?
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Due to recent funding issues, things have been a little bit delayed this year but we're still hopeful of holding an event in 2011 so please keep an eye on www.supporters-direct.coop for details.
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I'm sure we will , can you get Nigel down this year ?
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I'm sure we will , can you get Nigel down this year ?
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