antipodes
"place on the opposite side of the earth," late 14c., from L. antipodes "those who dwell on the opposite side of the earth," from Gk. antipodes , pl. of antipous "with feet opposite (ours)," from anti- "opposite" + pous "foot" (see foot), thus people who live on the opposite side of the world. Not to be confused with antiscii "those who live on the same meridian on opposite side of the equator," whose shadows fall at noon in the opposite direction, from Gk. anti- + skia "shadow."

And plenty from Britain. P**i is not a reasonable abbreviation for someone from a particular country, it's a racist term of abuse for people of certain 'look' wherever they're from. And anybody who pretends different is being deliberately obtuse. At best.

Only an idiot, or again someone being deliberately obtuse at best, would even entertain that as a possiblity.

Anybody defending this guy because he happens to play for their preferred team should be ashamed of themselves

Anybody defending what he said because other people share the same views and somehow that makes it ok should be ashamed of themselves

And most of all, anybody who shares his opinion should be ashamed of themselves (but I doubt they have the requisite number of brain cells to figure that one out)

And the irony of all this is that through the 20th century, Rugby League was one of the most pioneering sports embracing multi-race players and teams – are we really devolving to this?

You will find many many people have the same views and thoughts as Ben Cockayne.

The difference being the more sensible ones don't post those thoughts and opinions on a website that can be read by the general public.

Where did I condone it ?

I was merely pointing out in answer to the poster that the use of the word Paki is not something left in the 1970's, but id a frequently used term in my sphere of work (building sites in a lot of areas of high ethnic populations). If you see that as 'condoning' then you are either thick or stirring trouble.

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Precisely.

How he can still defend this racist is beyond me?

Deep down most people in this world have prejudices. Thats a fact.



Show me someone who has no prejudices in life and they will look like this.

How should those of us that think he's an idiot but is entitled to believe in anything he likes and doesn't warrant an OTT reaction from his club or by anybody else feel?

Like they are avoiding responsibility.

What responsibility is that?

What's the FC song about him?

It sounds like "you're supposed to be in jail" ?

The responsibility the game has to make sure that everyone knows they are welcome in the game, that Cockaynes views arent widely held and are as disgusting to the majority of people within the game as they are the majority of people within the country.

That's not my responsibility. HTH

Proof please.

Are you the game? If not im not sure i attributed the responsibility to you.

It is the not warranting a reaction from his club or anybody else that is the avoidance of the games responsibility.

I would say that you should feel fine as that is a reasonable stance

However, here is my opinion

I agree that he is allowed to believe anything he likes – we live in a country with freedom of speech and that is a right that we protect. I fully respect his right to have an opinion, it is the actual opinion itself that I find abhorrent

As for the OTT reaction, I read earlier that Cockayne has over a 1,000 friends on Facebook, I wouldn't be surprised if some of those were friends as they are fans of Hull KR and if this is the case then Cockayne and Hull KR should be aware that Cockayne is representing the club he plays for on a social media site

What he wrote is not in a grey area, it was extremely strong racist abuse. If I was in a senior position at Hull KR then he would be dismissed for gross misconduct

You want proof that the majority of the country isnt as racist as Ben Cockayne?

I would have thought the fact it has been publicised along with the reaction would have made that self evident Barry/Katie

My original post was about people that held the opion i shared not that of the game, so how should if feel i'm avoiding responsibilty (your post) ?

Yes please.

Making his 100th career a-penis today according to the commentary.

Me to, can't stand the guy anyway.

It is an insult but i do find it interesting that there seems to be hysterical reactions around abuse that has a racist slant to them but even that can be percieved worse with regards to certain races, my guess is that if it was a scotish taxi driver and he was described as a celtic c*** the reaction wouldn't be of the same scale. And if he had said the ginger c*** even less would have been made of it but the guy was calle a c*** in each situation.

I agree with your logic on the scale of reaction regarding slurs of race. In fact, somewhere in the deep recesses of this forum there is a thread where I say that it is strange that we are not allowed to comment on the colour of a person’s skin but can remark negatively about somebody having ginger hair (maybe there is some inherent racism in our society and nature abhors a vacuum and all that - although I hope not as I have more faith in society than that)

As it happens, I do feel that the second word in Cockayne’s insult is particularly important as it emphasises the spiteful nature of the first

p.s. I have changed Hull FC to Hull KR in my post – apologies for the mistake

And as I said, They are avoiding responsibility. Fans are part of the game. To promote avoiding dealing with racist views within the game, they are avoiding the responsibility to the game and not helping the game meet its responsibilities.