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| Quote ="Asgardian13"What this all boils down to is the standard sequence of fan comments regarding NRL imports.
Stage One: ALL FANS 'We'd love to have Player X in our squad. He's a brilliant player would improve any SL team'
Stage Two: ALL FANS (except those of club with whom he is rumoured to be signing) 'Player X is clearly only coming for the money else he wouldn't have considered signing for Small Club X instead of our club.'
Stage Three: ALL FANS (except those of club with whom he is rumoured to be signing) 'How can they fit Player X under their Salary Cap?'
Stage Four: Fans of club for whom player has actually now signed 'Fantastic news for the club and shows our ambition'
Stage Five: ALL FANS (except those of club for whom he has actually now signed) 'He's crocked/over the hill/waste of money/not a good use of marquee etc etc'.'"
Stage Six: ALL FANS (except those of club for whom he has actually now signed) "Don't say we didn't warn you"
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Riveting but it does make a change from the usual Yorkshire 'chit chat' though?
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Riveting but it does make a change from the usual Yorkshire 'chit chat' though?
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Yup 100 pages of chit chat about building a stadium instead of actually doing it.
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| Quote ="tigertot"That would be way over your head pal
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I am of course pleased to be an observant bystander in most things Leeds/Wakefield Castleford and always thought that the rhubarb triangle was based on actually growing rhubarb rather than the inane background noise uttered on a stage play (usually a farce).
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Yup 100 pages of chit chat about building a stadium instead of actually doing it.
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In the interests of fairness I think both clubs have been let down to some degree by others, although I don't get the ground share idea being dismissed so easily out of hand on the basis that it (mistakenly IMO) threatens a merger or will lose diehards who can't cross a certain street.....and I apologise for my help in turning the quality Widdop thread into standard east of the Pennines fare
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"Edited for accuracy.
Quite amusing watching Saints and Wire fans having a b1tchfest even though, as a Salford fan, I had to Google the word "trophy" to understand what they were waffling on about
Any London, Wakey, KR fans want to join me in a thread where we can boast over who's the test?
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Or any wakey, London or kr fans who have used 30,000 taxis to get to the games.
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| Quote ="AS108"Let’s remember that despite Wire spending a considerable amount more, we have won a trophy more recently than you.'"
What trophy is that then?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"What trophy is that then?'"
If you weren't around in 1955 then you wouldn't recognise it
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| Quote ="Jukesays"If you weren't around in 1955 then you wouldn't recognise it'"
You are Eddie Helens and I claim my £5
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"You are Eddie Helens and I claim my £5'"
Eddie Helen's?
I'm a Wigan fan but even in your replies you can't help but mention a big club
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"What trophy is that then?'"
Suppose you are a Wire fan, so I wouldn’t expect you to know.
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"although I don't get the ground share idea being dismissed so easily out of hand'"
What stadium would you suggest both clubs share?
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| Quote ="bren2k"What stadium would you suggest both clubs share?'"
I have no idea and only a passing interest but you probably understand that? What my post did say was that the idea of a ground share seems to be dismissed out of hand and fairly easily on the basis that it would disenfranchise one or both sets of fans or will signal a merger.
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"I have no idea and only a passing interest but you probably understand that? What my post did say was that the idea of a ground share seems to be dismissed out of hand and fairly easily on the basis that it would disenfranchise one or both sets of fans or will signal a merger.'"
Not really - it's dismissed by sensible people because there isn't a stadium to share, and no realistic expectation of one being available any time in the medium-long term future, so the argument is moot.
It's a tad annoying when people assume that they only thing stopping a magical inflatable stadium popping into existence in West Yorks is the intransigence or incompetence of one or the other of the two clubs - when in fact, neither club, the shared Council or the respective developers have the money to provide one.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Not really - it's dismissed by sensible people because there isn't a stadium to share, and no realistic expectation of one being available any time in the medium-long term future, so the argument is moot.
It's a tad annoying when people assume that they only thing stopping a magical inflatable stadium popping into existence in West Yorks is the intransigence or incompetence of one or the other of the two clubs - when in fact, neither club, the shared Council or the respective developers have the money to provide one.'"
Well stay as you are then I'm not that bothered and in hindsight regret making a comment
For the record I was only responding to another poster who brought the subject up and in defence of both clubs. I fully support my ground share comment as I said I don't get it particularly if there isn't money for two stadiums, there might be and I DON'T KNOW and very much doubt it from what you stated above, enough money for one stadium or at least a better business case?
No reason to get annoyed IMO and to state that alternative proposals can be dismissed by "sensible people" might true or might as easily be construed as short sighted or unrealistic.
Anyway did Wakefield bid for Widdop?
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Well stay as you are then I'm not that bothered and in hindsight regret making a comment
For the record I was only responding to another poster who brought the subject up and in defence of both clubs. I fully support my ground share comment as I said I don't get it particularly if there isn't money for two stadiums, there might be and I DON'T KNOW and very much doubt it from what you stated above, enough money for one stadium or at least a better business case?
No reason to get annoyed IMO and to state that alternative proposals can be dismissed by "sensible people" might true or might as easily be construed as short sighted or unrealistic.
Anyway did Wakefield bid for Widdop?'"
Don't get me wrong - I would love for the situation to move on; if you think the rest of the RL world is sick of hearing excuses, how do you think we feel?!
The unfortunate reality is that both clubs are reliant on property developers who are in turn reliant on the commercial reality of their respective ventures; one is hopeful but stuck, and the other is bent and intransigent - and none of the good people of Cas or Wakey, or the less good people at WMDC, can do a damn thing about it.
Apologies if I snapped at you - it was more frustration with the whole situation, and the sometimes simplistic view that people on the outside can take; you made a perfectly innocent comment and I ranted - soz.
No we didn't bid for Widdop - we didn't want to artificially inflate his market value to Warrington's detriment; our Chairman would never interfere in another clubs business in that way, as any fule kno.
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Well stay as you are then I'm not that bothered and in hindsight regret making a comment
For the record I was only responding to another poster who brought the subject up and in defence of both clubs. I fully support my ground share comment as I said I don't get it particularly if there isn't money for two stadiums, there might be and I DON'T KNOW and very much doubt it from what you stated above, enough money for one stadium or at least a better business case?
No reason to get annoyed IMO and to state that alternative proposals can be dismissed by "sensible people" might true or might as easily be construed as short sighted or unrealistic.
[uAnyway did Wakefield bid for Widdop?[/u'"
There's nothing more embarrassing than trying to make yourself look like you know what your talking about when your absolutely clueless, as for Widdop, it's a bit pointless really as we can't compete with the drinking culture at your club.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"There's nothing more embarrassing than trying to make yourself look like you know what your talking about when your absolutely clueless, as for Widdop, it's a bit pointless really as we can't compete with the drinking culture at your club.'"
I dunno, you took Antony England off us, he was a one man advertising campaign for hernandos hideaway in warrington
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| Quote ="little wayne69"There's nothing more embarrassing than trying to make yourself look like you know what your talking about when your absolutely clueless, as for Widdop, it's a bit pointless really as we can't compete with the drinking culture at your club.'"
The point was that the Wakefield ground 'discussion' took place on a Widdop bidding war thread so I'm not embarrassed at all why don't you lighten up?
Also read my original post I never alluded to knowing the ins and outs of your situation I was responding to another poster and said that I don't get it and think that you've been let down by others, so wasn't having a go at your club but if you think differently then I can assure you that you are mistaken but either way I won't be losing any sleep
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"I dunno, you took Antony England off us, he was a one man advertising campaign for hernandos hideaway in warrington'"
It's probably as close as were going to get to an UNESCO world heritage site in our town FMC.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Don't get me wrong - I would love for the situation to move on; if you think the rest of the RL world is sick of hearing excuses, how do you think we feel?!
The unfortunate reality is that both clubs are reliant on property developers who are in turn reliant on the commercial reality of their respective ventures; one is hopeful but stuck, and the other is bent and intransigent - and none of the good people of Cas or Wakey, or the less good people at WMDC, can do a damn thing about it.
Apologies if I snapped at you - it was more frustration with the whole situation, and the sometimes simplistic view that people on the outside can take; you made a perfectly innocent comment and I ranted - soz.
No we didn't bid for Widdop - we didn't want to artificially inflate his market value to Warrington's detriment; our Chairman would never interfere in another clubs business in that way, as any fule kno.'"
No problem Bren I can't remember the thread but recently discussed the ground situation with a Wakefield poster on the basis our new ground has transformed our club and hoped that the lift that we had was experienced by you guys and others as we need stronger teams and greater interest across the board so good luck
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"I dunno, you took Antony England off us, he was a one man advertising campaign for hernandos hideaway in warrington'"
Let's be fair here, having Richard Agar as a coach would turn anybody to drink, the good thing is he can't afford to drink in Hernando's on Wakey wages.
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"No problem Bren I can't remember the thread but recently discussed the ground situation with a Wakefield poster on the basis our new ground has transformed our club and hoped that the lift that we had was experienced by you guys and others as we need stronger teams and greater interest across the board so good luck'"
You're absolutely right on that score - it seems that with Wakey now out of the financial roller-coaster years, and a frugal but sensible Chairman in place, the only thing stopping us moving on is the lack of a decent, modern facility; unfortunately, that 'only thing' costs about 15 million quid, which is quite a barrier.
Hey ho - I suspect the outcome will be a tarted up BV, which is just about the most sub-optimal result we could have hoped for, but given the years of frustration, many fans will welcome an end to the back and forth and consider it good enough - I don't, but what do I know?
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