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| Difficult to do anything when the clubs have the vote on any changes because they will always vote with regards to their own self interest rather than the future of the game. For example, the less well off clubs won't vote to increase the cap because they're at risk of going down, but one of the ways we will improve the sport is to allow clubs to pay the best players.
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| Did Elstone do enough to justify his and his staff wages?
Did Elstone even bring in enough money into the game to even cover his and staff wages?
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Difficult to do anything when the clubs have the vote on any changes because they will always vote with regards to their own self interest rather than the future of the game. For example, the less well off clubs won't vote to increase the cap because they're at risk of going down, but one of the ways we will improve the sport is to allow clubs to pay the best players.'"
Be careful what you wish for as your club could become another Bradford quite easily
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| Quote ="snowie"Be careful what you wish for as your club could become another Bradford quite easily'"
So could every club. I doubt there are any RL clubs that can survive without money from their owner.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"So could every club. I doubt there are any RL clubs that can survive without money from their owner.'"
You have managed quite well without it.
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| Quote ="Willzay"He did bugger all!'"
He did well keeping your club in limelight..
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| Quote ="atomic"You have managed quite well without it.'"
I don't get that......
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| Quote ="atomic"He did well keeping your club in limelight..'"
Are you high?
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Do us a favour if you will, just tell me how much wakefirldnhavemlost over the samentenure as leneghan (its about 5million or so for leneghan).
I tried to look for myself, got a bit confused though with the various different companies,filings and confusing statements from aruous administrators etc.
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Do us a favour if you will, just tell me how much wakefirldnhavemlost over the samentenure as leneghan (its about 5million or so for leneghan).
I tried to look for myself, got a bit confused though with the various different companies,filings and confusing statements from aruous administrators etc.
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| Quote ="atomic"You have managed quite well without it.'"
No idea what this means
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Do us a favour if you will, just tell me how much wakefirldnhavemlost over the samentenure as leneghan (its about 5million or so for leneghan).
I tried to look for myself, got a bit confused though with the various different companies,filings and confusing statements from aruous administrators etc.'"
were not talking about Wakefield's past I replied to EC who puts the blame on lower clubs voting to have self interest as he wants the rich clubs to have the ability to spend as much as it wants but clearly you think £885,000 loss is acceptable to maintain and this is while your club is highly in the league
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Do us a favour if you will, just tell me how much wakefirldnhavemlost over the samentenure as leneghan (its about 5million or so for leneghan).
I tried to look for myself, got a bit confused though with the various different companies,filings and confusing statements from aruous administrators etc.'"
Wakefield don't have a rich backer. Their accounts suggest they have pretty much broken even (lost maybe on average £30k a year) over the period since Carter has been in charge, plus bought Belle Vue.
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I see Pearson has come out at Hull saying the appointment and split was a mistake, if only they had listened to Dewsbury,Batley,York,Featherstone,Bradford owners at the time who said this is exactly what would of happened.
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -big-vote/
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I see Pearson has come out at Hull saying the appointment and split was a mistake, if only they had listened to Dewsbury,Batley,York,Featherstone,Bradford owners at the time who said this is exactly what would of happened.
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -big-vote/
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Quote ="bulls2487"I see Pearson has come out at Hull saying the appointment and split was a mistake, if only they had listened to Dewsbury,Batley,York,Featherstone,Bradford owners at the time who said this is exactly what would of happened.
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -big-vote/'"
You'll be telling us next that it was the self interest of the top 4/5 SL clubs that got him the gig, The fans of whom, blame the "small" clubs for holding the game back
There is one thing for sure, RL faces some serious challenges in the short, medium and long term and as a sport, we desperately need to be making some good, positive choices.
There will always be self interest form the big clubs steering the game but, there needs to be some long term vision and a leader who can help implement and changes that are required.
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https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -big-vote/'"
You'll be telling us next that it was the self interest of the top 4/5 SL clubs that got him the gig, The fans of whom, blame the "small" clubs for holding the game back
There is one thing for sure, RL faces some serious challenges in the short, medium and long term and as a sport, we desperately need to be making some good, positive choices.
There will always be self interest form the big clubs steering the game but, there needs to be some long term vision and a leader who can help implement and changes that are required.
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| So all in of this we have to conclude that at this time there is no evidence to suggest that Elstone has brought a single penny into the game despite being in the job over 2 years and on a allege salary of £400,000 plus his staffs money
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"So all in of this we have to conclude that at this time there is no evidence to suggest that Elstone has brought a single penny into the game despite being in the job over 2 years and on a allege salary of £400,000 plus his staffs money'"
Not only not brought any money in but wasted £400,000 a year on his salary & left & £750,000 debt for an "introduction" to a P.E firm on a wing & a prayer, who ....... who agrees a £750,000 finders fee for "deal or no deal" ???
Still, there's always the magnificent Papa Johns pizza deal to brag about !!!
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Not only not brought any money in but wasted £400,000 a year on his salary & left & £750,000 debt for an "introduction" to a P.E firm on a wing & a prayer, who ....... who agrees a £750,000 finders fee for "deal or no deal" ???
Still, there's always the magnificent Papa Johns pizza deal to brag about !!!'"
And to think people criticised Nigel Wood with his running of the game. Over 2 million wasted on Elstone, PE and his staff.
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| Well Nigel Wood was equally as bad.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Well Nigel Wood was equally as bad.'"
He arranged the current TV deal which everyone is so upset we won't come close to matching.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Not only not brought any money in but wasted £400,000 a year on his salary & left & £750,000 debt for an "introduction" to a P.E firm on a wing & a prayer, who ....... who agrees a £750,000 finders fee for "deal or no deal" ???
Still, there's always the magnificent Papa Johns pizza deal to brag about !!!'"
Money the game can ill afford to lose
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| Quote ="bulls2487"And to think people criticised Nigel Wood with his running of the game. Over 2 million wasted on Elstone, PE and his staff.'"
Could be even more of a shock still to come.
Reported tonight in Rugby League Express.
It may be,repeat may be,that Derek Beaumont rode to the rescue!
Don't know the story - but if it has required Derek Beaumont to rescue the sport from the suicide of private equity,never,ever,will my gasted have been so flabbered.
This sport never fails to shock...
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| Quote ="Ornery Optimist"
Don't know the story - but if it has required Derek Beaumont to rescue the sport from the suicide of private equity,never,ever,will my gasted have been so flabbered.'"
It didn't. Leeds and St Helens were always going to veto it.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"It didn't. Leeds and St Helens were always going to veto it.'"
Who suggested there should be contact?
If that were the case,why facilitate the first large pay out?
Be nice to gain a bit more information.
I enjoy the odd horror story...
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"Money the game can ill afford to lose'"
His £400,000 a year would be better spent on the amateur game & referee training.
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