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| It was pathetic behaviour from both sets of players. Quite why they were so wound up when the game was dead and buried is strange.
But both sets of players are to blame.
There needs to be plenty of bans for individuals and perhaps some kind of club punishment for both.
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| Quote ="duke street 10"Why is anyone in S.L employing Kenny Edwards???.
Encouraging fan violence. Sack him!'"
Answers on a post card to Huddersfield, I wondered why they're imploding, it's a bit drastic I know, but if they go down they could pull out of the deal.
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| Quote ="duke street 10"Why is anyone in S.L employing Kenny Edwards???.
Encouraging fan violence. Sack him!'"
Didn’t Edwards get involved with some Saints fans last year?
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| Quote ="Willzay"Didn’t Edwards get involved with some Saints fans last year?'"
He was also goading Leeds fans at Headingley last year on his way off at the end of a controversial game.
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| Quote ="Rubyred1"Read what I wrote! When first got Into Super League! Try again!'"
So you’re saying they had an issue 10 years ago but not now?
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Exactly, seen it too many times for it to be a one off, drunken wire fans can't take defeat with dignity. Most super league clubs have experienced similar with the Wiire fans troublemakers, we also had the Wire Steward Thugs a couple of seasons back with the punching frenzy on an away supporter.'"
Yup! Seen it at the GF and even more bizarrely some Wire muppets in the car park at Wembley even though they had won and they didn't even stay in the ground to watch the trophy presentation. Strange lot!
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| Quote ="little wayne69"You should be proud of yourself, It's a good job the majority of decent wire fans wouldn't agree with you.'"
I wasn't there either, have also never been to Catalans away, and really couldn't care less about some scrapping that had nothing to do with me. I haven't seen the game because I've been at a music festival in Blackpool all weekend, but the main thing that concerns me is yet another dreadful result to add to the recent list (and I have been at all of our defeats this season other than the two in Perpignan). I'm also concerned about the apparent injury to Austin and any bans our players might get after Saturday. A bit of scrapping in the stands at a match I wasn't at? Erm, no, sorry, not my problem.
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy" A bit of scrapping in the stands at a match I wasn't at? Erm, no, sorry, not my problem.'"
That's a strange attitude, if you're a fan of the *game* - which you must be, unless you think that Warrington should just play themselves every week?
It's an embarrassing and shameful day when RL is in the news because of supporters fighting in the stands; regardless of who started it, what the players did on the pitch, or how the referee handled it - there is absolutely no excuse for this kind of thuggery. Both clubs should be facing serious investigation and if necessary, censure, along with criminal charges for any supporters involved who can be identified.
I don't care what your club loyalties are - we all have some responsibility to condemn this kind of behaviour.
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"I wasn't there either, have also never been to Catalans away, and really couldn't care less about some scrapping that had nothing to do with me. I haven't seen the game because I've been at a music festival in Blackpool all weekend, but the main thing that concerns me is yet another dreadful result to add to the recent list (and I have been at all of our defeats this season other than the two in Perpignan). I'm also concerned about the apparent injury to Austin and any bans our players might get after Saturday. A bit of scrapping in the stands at a match I wasn't at? Erm, no, sorry, not my problem.'"
Great attitude "not my problem" ???
Let's just ignore what happened and move on to next week then
More Brits abroad that cant handle their drink or, maybe it's ok to get lashed up and start fighting, just because you're in another country.
Are you not embarrassed that these hooligans attach themselves to your club and drag RL through the dirt, again ? not your problem, eh.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Great attitude "not my problem" ???
Let's just ignore what happened and move on to next week then
More Brits abroad that cant handle their drink or, maybe it's ok to get lashed up and start fighting, just because you're in another country.
Are you not embarrassed that these hooligans attach themselves to your club and drag RL through the dirt, again ? not your problem, eh.'"
Why do we always blame alcohol for this sort of fan behaviour? It's a cop out! Plenty of us go to matches having had a few beers and can behave ourselves. The fact is, those causing the trouble are likely to be thugs with or without alcohol in their bloodstream....
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| Pictures on twitter of Ben Pomeroy goading the wire fans from a balcony above, which is odd given that he was a Warrington player himself only a short while ago!
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| Quote ="Him"He was also goading Leeds fans at Headingley last year on his way off at the end of a controversial game.'"
Kenny Edwards not only running into the brawl but jumping in head first - another Catalans player follows shortly with a similar action - disgraceful.
Also hardly surprised to see Sam 'V-sign' Tomkins and Micky McIlorum involved , both have significant previous that should be taken into account when deciding the size of their bans. RFL/SL (IMO) need to make a big statement about not tolerating this sort of thuggery, against players of both teams.
What happened off the pitch was entirely separate, but in the eyes of the media both happenings will be conflated - not good for the reputation of the game IMO - up there with Ben Flower and Hull fans pulling up the sticks.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Also hardly surprised to see Sam 'V-sign' Tomkins and Micky McIlorum involved , both have significant previous that should be taken into account when deciding the size of their bans.'"
Feel free to list all said significant previous.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Kenny Edwards not only running into the brawl but jumping in head first - another Catalans player follows shortly with a similar action - disgraceful.
Also hardly surprised to see Sam 'V-sign' Tomkins and Micky McIlorum involved , both have significant previous that should be taken into account when deciding the size of their bans. RFL/SL (IMO) need to make a big statement about not tolerating this sort of thuggery, against players of both teams.
What happened off the pitch was entirely separate, but in the eyes of the media both happenings will be conflated - not good for the reputation of the game IMO - up there with Ben Flower and Hull fans pulling up the sticks.'"
Nothing like digging up the past, that was only 19 years ago.
To get on top of the issue of crowd violence, custodial sentences!
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| Quote ="Angelus"Feel free to list all said significant previous.'"
Does someone really have to mention rectumgate
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| Quote ="Willzay"Does someone really have to mention rectumgate
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Doesnt count, was off the field Plus it was all Joel. Curse that lad.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Nothing like digging up the past, that was only 19 years ago.
To get on top of the issue of crowd violence, custodial sentences!'"
Mate, i've seen a wigan fan bring up the maine road incident yesterday in order to tar warrington fans having a problem, only 1989.
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| Any news on the players bans in the aftermath? Cant find any updates yet
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Great attitude "not my problem" ???
Let's just ignore what happened and move on to next week then
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I did as soon as I saw the final score. Soz for not getting hysterical about something I couldn't care less about on the internet.
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| Quote ="craig hkr"Any news on the players bans in the aftermath? Cant find any updates yet'"
Isn't the disciplinary panel meeting tomorrow? Which is a bit tough on Warrington as they play again on Thurday. Thankfully it's only Saints.
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| Quote ="silver2"Isn't the disciplinary panel meeting tomorrow? Which is a bit tough on Warrington as they play again on Thurday. Thankfully it's only Saints.'"
charges are announced Monday, panel hearing if it needs one is Tuesday. it will probably be late on tday when they are announced, they have a lot to look at
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| Looks like it wasn't as dirty a game as we thought looking at disciplinary results
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| Tomkins 3 games is the stand out a few one games and Kenny Edwards to appear
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| This is off the Wire forum:
Quote ="moving on..."I challenge anyone to not kick off if you have someone, that someone being ex-wire player Ben Pomeroy, throwing glass bottles into the wire fans. Then all the catalan fans throwing chairs and snapping legs off tables and using them as weapons. Warrington fans are thugs you all say? easy to jump to conclusions when they just show pictures of wire fans climbing into a corporate area. People should research why they were doing so.
Kenny Edwards urging the french fans on to kick it off whilst Hill was asking the Ref to blow up because his family was up in the Box.
Wire fans are thugs? Perhaps we're not angelic but the majority of the blame lands at the feet of the frenchies up in that box and Catalan as a club for not having adaquat stadium security.
And as for the Ref causing all the argo, though he is not responsible for the actions of the crowd, he does have to take some blame. the sheer frustration he caused from his lack of ability to control the game caused the away fans to vent their frustrations at the ref. The catalan fans then were throwing ale into the crowds and laughing. so in essence he does have a part to play.
Straight after the first fight he should have come down hard on any infringement and stamped his authority. but in the following sets after there were high shots, flops, knees in the tackle, wrestling in the ruck and he just let it slide. It's almost as though he thought "Oh, Hicks let the game flow in the semi-final and it made the game better... I think i'm going to do the same" the man is a complete embarressment to the RFL officials and has been for close to 10 years. How he is still employed as a full time Ref is beyond me.'"
I find it incredible the amount of anti-Wire BS being spoken of on here when there was another set of fans, and an ex-player of both clubs, who were all involved.
No “Catalans fans are a disgrace” “Catalans fans are thugs” “rugby league players are a disgrace” “rugby league players are thugs”... no, it’s just “Wire fans are a disgrace” “Wire fans are thugs”.
I messaged my mate who was there within minutes of the incident and he replied with “they were throwing missiles into our away section”. Now, the natural reaction to that would be one of a few things:
1. Go and tell the stewards (happened to Cas fans at Catalans on another occasion and the stewards said they couldn’t do anything about it)
2. Leave
3. React
Humans are a fighting species. Fighting happens a lot, in all walks of life. Some people will always stand up for weaker people than themselves by fighting in retribution, many people will only take so much before they lose their cool and fight, some people even enjoy fighting...
There were Wire fans who did just leave as well.
But this thread tells me all I need to know about a lot of posters on this site: too bitter to consider it might not have been just Wire fans at fault in all this. Or just WUMs, of course.
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| Pathetic from the RFL, how on Earth has Chris Hill not been banned? His behaviour throughout the match was nothing short of embarrassing and the constant swearing at Child towards the end was pathetic. He came across like a teenager not getting their own way and he’s got away with it.
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