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| I'm not saying everyone else's are. Just when a specialist firm sign off a job as certified and finished you tend to accept this as gospel The Bradford fan brought the floodlights into it and I was saying it wasn't relevant in regards Odsal or for that matter the thread title Wakey and Cas stadium. After reading 12/13 pages I still aren't sure what is actually happening regarding this?
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| The issue has never been about shared stadium. It has been about money and location. As someone has said, agreeing to share won't make the money suddenly appear.
The Newmarket project was for a Wakefield stadium. The Glasshoughton project is for a Castleford project. The club that has to play in the ground built for the other, and in the other's town, will die.
Odsal is a dump. You wouldn't expect them to "share" with Leeds at Headingly though.
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| Quote ="Him"Hang on, no-one else’s floodlights have fallen over. Just because Hull KR’s were dodgy don’t try saying everyone else’s are.
Not sure why you’re having a go at Bradford. Or why Hudgell is artificially raising the price of the Odsal lease. It’s either politics v the RFL or one club owner deliberately trying affect the finances of another. Either way it’s petty and small minded.'"
Chalmers and Hudge have both made it plain they dislike each other. Quite why I don't know and as fan care little. Still not many facts coming out over the lights but would expect it's a legal matter so that's probably why
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt" The club that has to play in the ground built for the other, and in the other's town, will die.'"
So kids are stabbing each other based on postcodes and we tut loudly, but a shared ground will kill a pro sports club...... Get a grip
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| Quote ="Call Me God"So kids are stabbing each other based on postcodes and we tut loudly, but a shared ground will kill a pro sports club...... Get a grip'"
What ridiculous post.
He is saying a shared ground outside your own borders where money goes to your rivals would not be supported and therefore would not be financially viable.
What has that got to do with what you posted?
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| Quote ="craig hkr"Floodlights erected not to standard by contractors can hardly be used as a stick to beat Hudgell with. I wonder what percentage of stadiums light towers would pass a health and safety test now? Hopefully all but chances are a few would be dangerous? Bradfords consistent mismanagement isnt Wakeys or KRs fault.The genius currently steering Bradford is just the latest in a string of talented individuals who despite repeated bail outs by rfl can't make a profitable venture of the Bulls'"
mouthing off calling other club’s chairmen childish names is a stick to beat Hudgell with though.
I just wish Chalmers wouldn’t waste his time being dragged down to Carter and Hudgell’s level.
Well done for missing the point “genius”.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"mouthing off calling other club’s chairmen childish names is a stick to beat Hudgell with though.
I just wish Chalmers wouldn’t waste his time being dragged down to Carter and Hudgell’s level.
Well done for missing the point “genius”.'"
Carters level, what does that mean?
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"mouthing off calling other club’s chairmen childish names is a stick to beat Hudgell with though.
I just wish Chalmers wouldn’t waste his time being dragged down to Carter and Hudgell’s level.
Well done for missing the point “genius”.'"
Surely reaching carter and hudgells level is something chalmers would be moving up to as opposed to being dragged down to?
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| Quote ="Call Me God"So kids are stabbing each other based on postcodes and we tut loudly, but a shared ground will kill a pro sports club...... Get a grip'" only in Londarn pal
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| Quote ="Call Me God"So kids are stabbing each other based on postcodes and we tut loudly, but a shared ground will kill a pro sports club...... Get a grip'"
In the context of a ground share, he's right. It would have to be an absolutely even split, in all aspects.
Obviously there ARE far more important issues than RL and ground sharing.
Perhaps we should do away with all sport and concentrate on the important things
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"mouthing off calling other club’s chairmen childish names is a stick to beat Hudgell with though.
I just wish Chalmers wouldn’t waste his time being dragged down to Carter and Hudgell’s level.
Well done for missing the point “genius”.'"
The point is the current Bradford custodian started the whole ding dong with Hudge. Just an annoyance really and is very vocal for his very limited influence.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Surely reaching carter and hudgells level is something chalmers would be moving up to as opposed to being dragged down to?'"
Don't confuse him
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| Quote ="craig hkr"The point is the current Bradford custodian started the whole ding dong with Hudge. Just an annoyance really and is very vocal for his very limited influence.'"
How did he do that then?
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| Quote ="PopTart"What ridiculous post.
He is saying a shared ground outside your own borders where money goes to your rivals would not be supported and therefore would not be financially viable.
What has that got to do with what you posted?'"
Juve and torino fans don't get on....... Neither do the Milanese clubs, nor roma and lazio..... Yet these clubs and others with massive supporter bases managed to share grounds..... Yet the 4k fans at Wakefield or 8k fans at Castleford being lost to the game is somehow a major blow to the sport?
Celtic could play all their home games at ibrox and I'd still support them...... Some people are just too precious for the wrong reasons..... I'd say 10% of either fan base would walk...... And we'd be better off without them anyway...... Small minded idiots.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"How did he do that then?'"
He outrageously acted as a spokesman for the championship clubs and tried to represent their interests in the face of Super league arrogance. A despicable thing to do I'm sure you'll agree and definitely a case of him "starting it".
The fact of the matter is that Hudgell was outraged that a championship club should have the temerity to call out the top flight teams for their selfish actions. Hudgell then went to press about his dislike of Chalmers.
I'll let the neutrals decide who "started the ding dong".
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| Who elected him spokesman? Chairmen will do what's best for them and their clubs and it's not really that interesting as a fan. Just read a few snippets from articles were the current Bradford guy was bleating. Think that's about the size of it.
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| Still don't get what it has to do with Wakey stadium?
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| Still don't get what it has to do with Wakey stadium?
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Juve and torino fans don't get on....... Neither do the Milanese clubs, nor roma and lazio..... Yet these clubs and others with massive supporter bases managed to share grounds..... Yet the 4k fans at Wakefield or 8k fans at Castleford being lost to the game is somehow a major blow to the sport?
Celtic could play all their home games at ibrox and I'd still support them...... Some people are just too precious for the wrong reasons..... I'd say 10% of either fan base would walk...... And we'd be better off without them anyway...... Small minded idiots.'"
Turin (Juve gone their own way now), Milan and Rome. The football teams from these cities are representing the same place, not a different one entirely. Much easier to share a stadium.
As already pointed out, Trinity and Cas suddenly decide to share won't make £20m appear. The council doesn't have a pot to in and Featherstone would rightly want something too so they will not be able to contribute in any major way.
That means piggy backing private developers and whilst the Newmarket one has well and truly shafted the public, the Five Towns Park one seem a little more trustworthy but have hit the stumbling block of the falling out of the retail sector.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Juve and torino fans don't get on....... Neither do the Milanese clubs, nor roma and lazio..... Yet these clubs and others with massive supporter bases managed to share grounds..... Yet the 4k fans at Wakefield or 8k fans at Castleford being lost to the game is somehow a major blow to the sport?
[uCeltic could play all their home games at ibrox and I'd still support them.[/u..... Some people are just too precious for the wrong reasons..... I'd say 10% of either fan base would walk...... And we'd be better off without them anyway...... Small minded idiots.'"
Really, well first of all I doubt very much the Rangers board would allow it to happen, but looking on the bright side, if the unthinkable ever happened you'd be able to sit where you wanted to in the away part of the ground.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Juve and torino fans don't get on....... Neither do the Milanese clubs, nor roma and lazio..... Yet these clubs and others with massive supporter bases managed to share grounds..... Yet the 4k fans at Wakefield or 8k fans at Castleford being lost to the game is somehow a major blow to the sport?
Celtic could play all their home games at ibrox and I'd still support them...... Some people are just too precious for the wrong reasons..... I'd say 10% of either fan base would walk...... And we'd be better off without them anyway...... Small minded idiots.'"
Except Juve and Torino don't share any more , and neither will Roma and Lazio when Roma's new stadium gets finished
As for Celtic , since when do you live in Glasgow and attend every other week ?
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| Quote ="craig hkr"Who elected him spokesman?'"
His peers seem happy for him to be doing it and several meetings of championship and league one clubs were held at Odsal. You may wish to write him off as merely a lone rentagob but that isn't the case.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Except Juve and Torino don't share any more , and neither will Roma and Lazio when Roma's new stadium gets finished
As for Celtic , since when do you live in Glasgow and attend every other week ?'"
He didn’t say that he did?
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Juve and torino fans don't get on....... Neither do the Milanese clubs, nor roma and lazio..... Yet these clubs and others with massive supporter bases managed to share grounds..... Yet the 4k fans at Wakefield or 8k fans at Castleford being lost to the game is somehow a major blow to the sport?
Celtic could play all their home games at ibrox and I'd still support them...... Some people are just too precious for the wrong reasons..... I'd say 10% of either fan base would walk...... And we'd be better off without them anyway...... Small minded idiots.'" you've really been cracking on with the Christmas spirits there pal you really think Celtic fans would move to Ibrox, would love to hear the reactions of the Celtic fans
we know you're always on the wind up but you have no sense of feeling of each others fans and how they would react and most of the time your just guessing how it will pan out, why not have separate stadiums
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