SL isn't going to expand to 14 as that would mean less money per club for at least the next 2 years. And that just ain't going to happen.

I don't see this happening if it means that the existing SL clubs receive a smaller slice of the cake. Some big losses being posted again by some of the clubs, many of whom are already petitioning for smaller rations for their championship and league 1 counterparts. The only way it might happen is as a sweetener if extra votes are needed to move along this reform process. Otherwise, forget it. Leeds will get back up ok, should we be relegated (not an impossibility).

In the brave new world of expansion and with the possibility of a further French side and Canadian side, plus London, surely, we should be talking to Sky and telling them of the benefits of broadcasting such a diverse and exciting competition.
The would open the top draw, pull out the cheque book and ask "how much", if not, we are wasting our time in expanding the game ??
If, by having these clubs in the comp, there is no more "draw" than there is now, who has been kidding who ?

To listen to some people on here, it would be akin to bringing Christmas forward so, apart from the Turkeys, everyone's a winner.

I believe that we should plan for the next TV deal in 2022 by going to 14 clubs in 2022, with Toronto, Toulouse and London, and possibly New York, in the roster, and protected by the restoration of licensing. That should ensure a bigger UK TV contract in 2022, and the possibility of separate French and north American TV contracts.

I have no doubt that Salford will have folded as a Super League club by 2020, or 2021 at the latest, thereby creating the space for all the above mentioned expansion clubs

Oh yeah I agree, what I said above is what I believe we will be getting, based on talking to people in various positions within the game, not what I'd personally like to see happen.

Yeah, right.

You can’t protect one team from relegation, that’s just unfair. You have to protect all teams from relegation if you want to help one club develop.

Imagine Wigan or Leeds getting relegated even with finishing above Toronto...

That mean no promotion and relegation, end it, closed shop unless you show you’re a SL club worthy of adding to the competition.

My post was somewhat tongue in cheek.
However, if the further expansion into France and into N.America aren't going to help the game as a whole, what is the point ?
You would think that IF Toulouse could establish themselves as a SL side, it would help the French National side, which has gone backwards at a rate of knots since SL began.
Toronto, expensive gimmick or, genuine attempt to spread RL into N. America ?

As a London fan...... Only if we finish in the top 3 or win the MPG thanks..... Otherwise we're fine as we are for now. We've been there and done that and I have loads of shirts to prove it, but without a new ownership model...... I don't see the point of going back to 3k gates and reliance on one man

Not at all , we weren't good enough to make the 4 , so don't deserve anything

Of course you can. Catalans were given protection from relegation and have become one of Super League’s strongest clubs.

However i do believe it’d be better if all 14 Super League clubs were given protection from relegation.

Bradford used to be one of the “Big 4”. They were then relegated from Super League and then the Championship. Why not anyone else?

More inane drivel....
39 wins from 92 regular season games 2015/2018. 42% win ratio
9 wins from 25 games in the 8's 2015/2018. 36% win ratio

....catalan are not one of the stronger SL Clubs in terms of performance on or off the field...they are average at best.

ABT will do me.....ANYBODY BUT TORONTO !

Obsessed

They just won the Challenge Cup. When did, Wakefield, Castleford, Widnes, Salford, Huddersfield, Hull kr, Leigh or London last achieve that?

HA HA HA. Only while traitor/Mr Morals Rowley is there, hope they lose everytime they play. Hopefully again next Saturday, you fake Leeds Rhinos .....

Catalans just won the Challenge Cup, beating Warrington and St Helens (easily) along the way.

Catalans would have beaten St Helens again last weekend had it not been for a forward pass ignoring incompetent referee.

Catalans has a core base of nearly 8000 fans. In Super League only Leeds, Wigan, St Helens, Warrington and Hull FC have a bigger core fan base.

Wake up and smell the coffee!

... Superleague club.... Your words not mine. They are a 42% win club... Lower mid table side at best and mid table attendance wise....

IF my Auntie had (rugby) balls, she would be my uncle.



What does 'wake up and smell the coffee' actually mean ?
I know you are French



, but please explain further.
Also can you explain why Catalans supporters do not like visiting England ? Even rubbish/lowly/scum Leigh Centurions took over 500 fans to Catalans, on each of their 3 visits. The 1st game, we took a 1000 fans.

As I have shown, to the other collective troll I was addressing a while back whilst discussing the claim about a top SL team and nothing to do with the Challenge Cup....., Catalans have won only 42% of their regular season SL games since the end of licensing. 42% of games would deliver 22.68 points, or 6th spot this year, 7th last, 5th in 2016 and 6th again in 2015...they are a mid table outfit, not once finishing in the top 4 spots, which defines a top SL team. Tey did finish 4th once, some 7 seasons ago, but since then they have dropped to the ignominy of having to win the MPG just to survive less than 12 months ago......they are mid table at best

Another tin pot club that's going to the dogs supporter in denial again.....

As well as being pseudo expansionist yet anti-TWP and now Les Catalans type, I really wonder why you are so hostile yet your own tin pot nomadic club has failed to establish itself after 34 years???

Bless.
I am neither pseudo expansionist, not pseudo-anti-expansionist. I like things like and others I don't.....as for London being "tin-pot"....lol.....try harder son, try harder

Jesus, don't set the bar too high, will you?

Genuine question here. Back in the day when you were gutterfax and shep were a pup, a lot of people on here, including yourself, used to harp on about the 250,000 kids playing rugby league in london on a weekly basis. How come nothing was built on this foundation? Did the kids just get bored? Schools stop playing the game? No amateur clubs set up?

Regards

King james