Doubt it. Sky do the bare minimum when it comes to RL coverage and refreshing the content.

Hemmings isn't great but I would still take him over pinky and perky. Those two shouldn't be anywhere near a microphone.

Baz & Tez ....... I echoe your sentiments . John Wells on the pitch whilst the players are warming up also annoys me a tad . Suprised Wells is still part of the Sky crew , as he is Director of rugby at Castleford.

Robbie Paul was doing the same pitchside rubbish for the BBC when he had a senior role at Bradford. Not sure weaving yourself and a camera between players warming up is the best use for their rugby knowledge.

Quote ="My Mate Ronnie"This was a cringeworthy moment . https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gen ... 64965.html The Sky Sports presenter cleared up the case of mistaken identity later in the match but took aim at those that had accused him or racism Sky Sports commentator triggered allegations of racism after mistaking Oscar-nominated Djimon Hounsou for Samuel L Jackson during their live coverage of Sunday’s World Club Challenge match between Super League champions St Helens and the NRL Grand Final winners South Sydney Rabbitohs. Hemmings said: “Samuel L Jackson alongside him, wasn't it? Looked like him. Maybe it was somebody doing an impersonation.”'" how is that racism?

Quote ="My Mate Ronnie"This was a cringeworthy moment . https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gen ... 64965.html The Sky Sports presenter cleared up the case of mistaken identity later in the match but took aim at those that had accused him or racism Sky Sports commentator triggered allegations of racism after mistaking Oscar-nominated Djimon Hounsou for Samuel L Jackson during their live coverage of Sunday’s World Club Challenge match between Super League champions St Helens and the NRL Grand Final winners South Sydney Rabbitohs. Hemmings said: “Samuel L Jackson alongside him, wasn't it? Looked like him. Maybe it was somebody doing an impersonation.”'" how is that racism?

Presumably the accusation relates to the perception that some white people think all black people look the same. Whilst I'm not sure that Djimon Honsou is all that similar to Samuel L Jackson, it's perhaps a bit of a stretch to label Eddie a racist for that mistake alone.

I'd like Clive Tyldesley to commentate on sky. He's the best I've heard on the mike at an RL game.

Thats what I thought? I got Deshaun Watson and Jalen Hurts mixed up the other day but that doesnt make me racist!

John Motson said he got Aldridge and rush mixed up. also 2 black players at possibly Wimbledon. It happens

"Here on Scouse Island..."

I used to get Fonua and Manu mixed up all the time, especially in the early days when they had similar hair styles. Blooming snowflakes everywhere that read into everything too far

This thread is supposed to be about Eddie Hemmings,not doppelgangers.

We were discussing the fact that Eddie was accused of being a racist for comparing 2 people so feel free to climb down off that high horse of yours.

I like Eddie
Wells is the best especially with Carney. Intelligent guys.
Barry I like. Tez needs to go.
I liked Clarke but he's a bit too random now.

Silly Barry McDermott and sillier Terence O'Connor, with their terrible northern accents, both need to go, along with Phillip Clarke, who talks gibberish with a northern accent.

I don't like the Irish accent of Brian Carney, but at least he is intelligent, so I can give him a pass on his accent. The same point applies to Yorkshire's Jonathan Wells.

However we need more commentators with national educated BBC accents, like David Wood, if rugby league is to expand its national appeal.

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I disagree.However,Stuart Cummings must go. The only ones i would keep would be Hemmings,Carney, and Bill Arthur,the rest need replacing.

That's probably more racist than what Hemmings said.

I agree with dumping Stuart Cummings and retaining Edward Hemmings, Brian Carney, and William Arthur. But I also want the clever Yorkshire man Jonathan Wells retained.

William Arthur could be the commentary replacement for Barry McDermott and Terence O'Connor. If casual viewers heard Edward Hemmings' and William Arthur's articulate and well accented voices describing and analysing the game in progress, these viewers might imagine that the game is as worthy as it really is. Moreover British rugby league might even get some good national sponsors.

Jon wells is annoying with his mumbling,stuttering analysis on the game.

I don’t get the love in for Wells. I don’t think he’s that good, he’s just not as bad as the others.

I think he's excellent.
The one guy that can talk about modern rugby league as more than just "run it in hard" or "get on their faces"

Like i said, not as bad as others. To be fair to others though they’re commentating on the game as it happens which is much harder. Having 20/30 mins to look at replays of tries before HT/FT and putting a circle around a defender pointing out he was the one drawn in isn’t that impressive or difficult unless you’re one of those people who didn’t spot why a try was scored in real time or in the 2/3 replays shown immediately after the try was scored.

But that’s what’s needed from a half time/full time piece same as in football. I think he does that perfectly fine. It’s something I think the BBC misses out on, otherwise their coverage is far better.

At times I just wished they'd all just shut up and let the game do the talking, rather than argue the toss over whether a penalty should be awarded after each and every tackle.

No I think it’s just wasting time. Like I said I can tell why tries were scored at the time, if others need it slowed down for them to understand then so be it but doesn’t make it good. Would rather hear opinion of former players and coaches on how the game is going as a whole....just need to get a better collection of guests and vary it so that it’s not repetitive.

I would get rid of all of them on Sky except from Carney. Wells is a one trick pony, he just highlights a lead runner in a block shape and a defender making the wrong read and biting in, over and over again. There's very little analysis on the contact, defensive shape/structure or kicking and kick returns.

There is no point in talking about the others because they are truly awful, stealing a living and damaging the sport. I just hope that the RFL are getting themselves in position to pitch to other broadcasters, looking at what's going on at Sky, there's a good chance they toss it off when the renewal comes around.