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| Quote ="The Avenger"An England NZ final with an England win would be the most refreshing result for International Rugby League. Alongside the emergence of Samoa as a real force which in turn should inspire Tonga to up their game'"
Never mind Tonga, it is Fiji which is the real threat to mighty Samoa.
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| England has the talent to beat Australia tomorrow. What it needs is the self-belief.
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| so samoa almost beat NZ, makes the England result look even better now!
oloughlin hasnt made the team
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| Anyone know when tomorrow mornings match will be available on iPlayer (and will it be the whole match)? Will I be able to get up at 8.00am and watch it or will it only be on after the highlights have been shown in the afternoon?
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| Quote ="Dally"Anyone know when tomorrow mornings match will be available on iPlayer (and will it be the whole match)? Will I be able to get up at 8.00am and watch it or will it only be on after the highlights have been shown in the afternoon?'"
I would imagine the highlights show will be available on iPlayer but I've yet to see a full match being available on iPlayer.
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Quote ="SaintsFan"I would imagine the highlights show will be available on iPlayer but I've yet to see a full match being available on iPlayer.'"
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00nqm9j
I was hoping this meant whole game? I would rather get up at a normal time and stick telly on to watch it on iplayer then!
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Quote ="SaintsFan"I would imagine the highlights show will be available on iPlayer but I've yet to see a full match being available on iPlayer.'"
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00nqm9j
I was hoping this meant whole game? I would rather get up at a normal time and stick telly on to watch it on iplayer then!
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| The full game should be on, not sure if the Samoa one was but they've always had Challenge Cup games in full available for 7 days afterwards.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"The full game should be on, not sure if the Samoa one was but they've always had Challenge Cup games in full available for 7 days afterwards.'"
Thanks. I think I'll take a chance rather than getting up at 4.30am
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| If not there's a YouTube channel that uploads every televised game in good quality - will send you a link if you're struggling.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"If not there's a YouTube channel that uploads every televised game in good quality - will send you a link if you're struggling.'"
Thanks.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Never mind Tonga, it is Fiji which is the real threat to mighty Samoa.'"
But Samoa beat Fiji comfortably to get to this tournament and Fiji only beat Lebanon the other week by 12.
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| I watched England Samoa "as live" on iPlayer in the afternoon. You can also tune in late and start the program from the beginning or any point during the programme whilst the broadcast is still live on tv. So you could wake up an hour or so after kick off and watch it spoiler free.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"But Samoa beat Fiji comfortably to get to this tournament and Fiji only beat Lebanon the other week by 12.'"
I didn't follow the recent match with Lebanon, but I suspect that Fiji did not have their best possible team.
For Fiji to be competitive with Samoa and beat Lebanon easily they need the three Sims brothers and Jason Bukuya in the forwards, Apisai Korisau at hooker, Kevin Niaqama at full back, Darryl Millard in the centres, and two or more of the great Fijian wingers (Semi Radradra, Akuila Uate, Marika Koroibete, Sisa Waqa. Eto Nabuli), one of whom could play centre if he was considered a better option there than Waisale Ligani "Wes" Naiqama.
Of course come 2016, for the qualifiers for the World Cup, Lebanon might have Robert Farah, Timothy Mannah and Joshua Mansour available (Mansour has played for Lebanon before, though he has now won an Australian jersey which might change things, but Farah has indicated he might put his hand up for Lebanon for the World Cup). However I don't think that even with those NRL stars in the side the Lebanon team would be strong enough to compete with a full strength Fijian team.
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| Does anyone have the final verdict on whether or not Sean O'Loughlin will play?
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"I didn't follow the recent match with Lebanon, but I suspect that Fiji did not have their best possible team.
For Fiji to be competitive with Samoa and beat Lebanon easily they need the three Sims brothers and Jason Bukuya in the forwards, Apisai Korisau at hooker, Kevin Niaqama at full back, Darryl Millard in the centres, and two or more of the great Fijian wingers (Semi Radradra, Akuila Uate, Marika Koroibete, Sisa Waqa. Eto Nabuli), one of whom could play centre if he was considered a better option there than Waisale Ligani "Wes" Naiqama.
Of course come 2016, for the qualifiers for the World Cup, Lebanon might have Robert Farah, Timothy Mannah and Joshua Mansour available (Mansour has played for Lebanon before, though he has now won an Australian jersey which might change things, but Farah has indicated he might put his hand up for Lebanon for the World Cup). However I don't think that even with those NRL stars in the side the Lebanon team would be strong enough to compete with a full strength Fijian team.'"
Yes it wasn't the full complement though there were a few late inclusions like Korisau and one of the Sims. But they did play this powerhouse of players
Eddy Elzbaidieh (Mascot)
Ben Chahoud (Cronulla Sharks)
Tarek El Masri (Norths)
Raymond Moujalli (Newtown)
Jamie Clark (Lithgow Workers)
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Cliff Nye (Auburn Warriors)
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| Back on thread.
I always believe England can beat Australia. So there's no difference today.
People believing how superior the coaching, S&C work and training methods are far superior here are misguided.
COME ON ENGLAND
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Does anyone have the final verdict on whether or not Sean O'Loughlin will play?'"
Probably. He was doing full-drills with the rest of the squad in the final training session.
Although Graham did the press conference.
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| Come on England, time to make history. 44years since Australia faileed to make a final!M
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| O'loughlin starts (never doubted for a second he wouldn't)
However Sarginson coming in for Shenton is a shock. Harsh on Shenton. Wasn't the worst player last week.
Cynic in me thinks if he played for a "bigger" club he wouldn't have been dropped. Well McNamara today's the day. You were a lucky man getting the job In the first place, you were a miracle to get another year, can you shut the critics like me up.
No excuses. We have the better team. Time to deliver.
Come in England!!!!
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"O'loughlin starts (never doubted for a second he wouldn't)
However Sarginson coming in for Shenton is a shock. Harsh on Shenton. Wasn't the worst player last week.
Cynic in me thinks if he played for a "bigger" club he wouldn't have been dropped. Well McNamara today's the day. You were a lucky man getting the job In the first place, you were a miracle to get another year, can you shut the critics like me up.
No excuses. We have the better team. Time to deliver.
Come in England!!!!'"
what does that say about the current super league champions he either got dropped or didn't get pick whilst playing at saints.
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| Here we go.
Tried to think of anything that would express how much this would mean without tempting fate.
Couldn't manage it.
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| Come on England!!
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| Surprised Sarginson is in. I thought Shenton was pretty good last week and can count himself a little unlucky. Sarginson is a threat with the ball and good without it but he's still developing and I think he's 12 months of being ready for this level. He makes a couple too many errors for me.
That's a call that really could go either way. I hope for his sake he plays well.
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| Told new girlfriend "No, I won't be getting up at half four in the morning and leaving you in bed"...
No pressure England.
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| No way should Sarge be in over Shenton! Don't think it'll decide the game but we will see.
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