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| Quote ="BogBrushHead"I was 'managed out' of a company because they identified me as a '3' ..... Basically, the company I worked at for many years (150 yr old engineering firm) was taken over by an over-ambitious gang of BS merchants, who loaded the company with debt and gave me the instruction to "use any method available to maximise short term revenues from clients". When I refused and stated that could only end up in the destruction of client/consultant relationship and eventual demise of the company, their answer was simple - They had no long term plan; they intended to get what they could and move on ...... I was forced out, the board took huge salaries/bonuses, and within 3 years the company was bankrupt, putting 2000 people out of work!
Maybe Hock (and I really, really, don't like the idea of him being me
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There are many people who I think would make a better England coach than McNamara, but Gareth Hock isn't on my list, despite even my mum making the top 20.
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| Quote ="frankbooth64"Hock, McIlorum and Graham out on it against orders. Hock doesn't show up next day.
Hock bulleted, the other two stood down for Saturday.'"
If thats the case then it seems its OK to break the strict team rules about no drinking as long as you turn up for training.Seems being unable to get out of bed after a hard night on the lash is a more serious offence than just being out on the lash.Sure that will make sense to someone.No wonder the England squad are unhappy with the way this situation has been dealt with.
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| I cant overstate how disappointed I am with the England team. Losing to a terrible Italy side (with a couple of decent NRL players in it only) and now this.
Do the players realise how much this tournament means to the fans?
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| Quote ="JobsForTheWives"If thats the case then it seems its OK to break the strict team rules about no drinking as long as you turn up for training.Seems being unable to get out of bed after a hard night on the lash is a more serious offence than just being out on the lash.Sure that will make sense to someone.No wonder the England squad are unhappy with the way this situation has been dealt with.'"
That makes absolute sense to me, how is this being turned into Macnamara's fault? The players are a disgrace.
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| Quote ="JobsForTheWives"If thats the case then it seems its OK to break the strict team rules about no drinking as long as you turn up for training.Seems being unable to get out of bed after a hard night on the lash is a more serious offence than just being out on the lash.Sure that will make sense to someone.No wonder the England squad are unhappy with the way this situation has been dealt with.'"
To be honest, if the England squad are unhappy......and that's only you saying that as far as I can see......then I'd play the players from the Knights.
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| Losing Hock is a slight blow as he can be a game changer.... but I'm not too bothered overall.
I'd rather focus on Ferres being called up and having a chance to input into the squad. He is a good player and deserves his chance - so lets focus on that, rather than Hock and his endless issues.
Congrats Ferres.
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| The thing is do people think this would of happened so close to an important game if say,Mal Reilly or Shaun Edwards was in charge?.
I honestly don't think the players rate or respect the current coach, and fear the performance's in this coming tournament will reflect that
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| "Serious breaches" has become "series of breaches", both ofwhich no doubt distinguish Hock's case from any others who may or may not have been involved?
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"That makes absolute sense to me, how is this being turned into Macnamara's fault? The players are a disgrace.'"
Irs always someone elses fault when gareth hock makes a mistake according to some of his fans. Some of the stuff we had on the wigan board earlier in the year was awesome.
Equalled by only the conspiracy theorys of 9/11 and the moon landings!
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"That makes absolute sense to me, how is this being turned into Macnamara's fault? The players are a disgrace.'"
Agreed, Salford fans falling over themselves to defend Druggy Hock.... How many times we going to see that in the next few seasons ???
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| Nobody is defending Gareth Hock, because nobody knows he has done. Anyone with half a brain would refrain from publically slating somebody (whether that be Gareth Hock or anybody else) without knowing anything about the situation.
For what it's worth, if Hock is guilty of some of the accusations thrown at him on here then I would have just dropped him from the remainder of the tournament and kept it out of the media. If he wasnt selected at all, would anybody have questioned it? I doubt it. To issue a statement citing "serious breaches of team discipline" sums England's management up to a tee, amatuerish.
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| I'm really worried about Saturday now.
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Agreed, Salford fans falling over themselves to defend Druggy Hock.... How many times we going to see that in the next few seasons ???'"
It's not a question of defending, it's a question of actually knowing facts. You can't really cast a judgmental eye over something if you don't know exactly what went on. 'Druggy Hock' also shows a lack of restraint with your current attitude.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"To issue a statement citing "serious breaches of team discipline" sums England's management up to a tee, amatuerish.'"
Apparently social media forced their hand on that one so you're being a bit unfair. From what i've heard the original intention was to keep it quiet.
That being said, the vague statement does nothing to quell the speculation so perhaps they could have been a bit more specific.
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| Time for the funniest hashtag of all time to resurface on Twitter:
#HockRumours
The rumours I've heard involve an illegal substance, a netball player, a hotel room and copious amounts of alcohol.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Nobody is defending Gareth Hock, because nobody knows he has done. Anyone with half a brain would refrain from publically slating somebody (whether that be Gareth Hock or anybody else) without knowing anything about the situation.
For what it's worth, if Hock is guilty of some of the accusations thrown at him on here then I would have just dropped him from the remainder of the tournament and kept it out of the media. If he wasnt selected at all, would anybody have questioned it? I doubt it. To issue a statement citing "serious breaches of team discipline" sums England's management up to a tee, amatuerish.'"
That's right, Hock's been booted out of camp 3 days before the first game for nothing. Just because Macnamara thought it would be a good laugh. Get a grip.
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| Quote ="Jimmy85"Time for the funniest hashtag of all time to resurface on Twitter:
#HockRumours
The rumours I've heard involve an illegal substance, a netball player, a hotel room and copious amounts of alcohol.'"
What all at the same time
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| Hock feels treated unfairly and says he wasn't the only one to break the rules
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| Perhaps McNamara realises that he is totally out of his depth coaching at this level and knows England hasn’t a hope in hell of winning the World Cup. Could this be a premeditated media manoeuvre to create a smokescreen to hide behind when it all goes predictably belly up?
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| Quote ="Mark_W"Hock feels treated unfairly and says he wasn't the only one to break the rules'"
Until he holds his hands up and accepts responsibility for HIMSELF he'll never get anywhere.
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| Quote ="Mark_W"Hock feels treated unfairly and says he wasn't the only one to break the rules'"
thats always his excuse, he needs to man up and start taking responsibility for him self.
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"Perhaps McNamara realises that he is totally out of his depth coaching at this level and knows England hasn’t a hope in hell of winning the World Cup. Could this be a premeditated media manoeuvre to create a smokescreen to hide behind when it all goes predictably belly up?'"
doubt it we are already the underdogs its the only excuse we need.
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| Quote ="dubairl"thats always his excuse, he needs to man up and start taking responsibility for him self.'"
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"Perhaps McNamara realises that he is totally out of his depth coaching at this level and knows England hasn’t a hope in hell of winning the World Cup. Could this be a premeditated media manoeuvre to create a smokescreen to hide behind when it all goes predictably belly up?'"
Is the tin foil hat working?
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| Just showed part of an interview with him on BBC North West today. Full interview to be shown later on the 6:30 show
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