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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"That is not what the RFL have said! If I were a Bulls fan, I would be maybe thinking about setting up a fans stadium action group in the near future! Plus, lets not forget Quins, they need a massive turn-around if the RFL don't have the Wakey and Cas as whipping boys next time!
Also, lets be honest. If Featherstone & Barrow get sorted, which looks likley, then maybe you could bring back P&R.... just a thought!
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" That is not what the RFL have said " , and you think that will convince Championship fans and potential investors ?
Yes the Bulls have a couple of issues , but seriously , not going to happen
So it's the Quins then , well perhaps we will find out if the no London , no SKY is really true
Either way , this will hit the Championships again , we have lost our ' biggest club ' and we might get the Crusaders in return , or maybe not , so that will make Leigh,Fax,Fev and Barrow with any kind of draw in the Championship ,
Leigh currently don't have an owner and today's decision won't help much to get one
Fax will be hit badly by this crowd wise I feel
Fev are struggling to bring in the fans at the moment due to a bit of trouble
Barrow are on a downward slide right now
At this moment we have 9 teams in the Championship for next year , that's 8 home games
We are 5 weeks from the end of the season and we don't know if anybody is being relegated or promoted or what the make up of the Championships will be next year , basically it is a shambles
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| These grapes are so sour, i can almost taste them! Some of the comments and assumptions regarding wakeys application are laughable, clearly ill informed. Sorry fax, but a shiny stadium is'nt everything thats taken into account! And you can have a bafe about about our administration fiasco all you like but, thanks to crusaders, it doesnt count for anything. So here's to another 3 years
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| Quote ="Dreamer"Halifax, Leigh, Doncaster and Rochdale all have very good grounds.
If they could find a good backer and tick the boxes there is no reason why they couldn't challenge for a place.'"
You have the right user name don't you
If we can't put in a better application than the current set up at Wakey , then there is no chance
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| Quote ="Starbug"You have the right user name don't you
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It's what rugby league is all about
I take it you look like your avatar
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| Quote ="Dreamer"Halifax, Leigh, Doncaster and Rochdale all have very good grounds.
If they could find a good backer and tick the boxes there is no reason why they couldn't challenge for a place.'"
That would work for me under a reintroduced P&R system... but Starbug is right, where is the RFL going to try next instead... Newcastle maybe?
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| Quote ="Dreamer"It's what rugby league is all about
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No , it used to be about dreaming , now those dreams have all gone
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"That would work for me under a reintroduced P&R system... but Starbug is right, where is the RFL going to try next instead... Newcastle maybe?'"
That was the RFL s little project two years ago , it failed , they are now a little better than Leigh Easts under 14 s girls team
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| Quote ="21-12" Belle Vue is an absoulute dump, they have been stringing people along with this "we are getting a new ground" for years, youth development and crowds are also pathetic.So, Wakefield are going to play at Belle Vue again next season..........................What a farce.'"
Agree ground poor but the other 2 points are not correct.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Yes you do know , but because you have a penis stuck out of your head you won't admit it'"
I rest my case. On all counts.
Oddly I was under the impression that you were older than 10. Only goes to show how mistaken you can be.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Yes you do know , but because you have a penis stuck out of your head you won't admit it'"
Vorlons dont have genitals.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I rest my case. On all counts.
Oddly I was under the impression that you were older than 10. Only goes to show how mistaken you can be.'"
Words but no meaning or substance , as usual
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"God I wouldn't want him representing me :
(1) he has made all sorts of assumptions based on limited knowledge of another clubs situation (afterall he hasn't seen our franchise application)
(2) says the RL have ignored their own rules re clubs going into admin, despite an announcement when Crusaders went into admin that it would not preclude clubs applying for a SL licence in the future (the clubs agreement to this was also probably with one eye on the image rights tax issue which if it goes against the clubs could push some other clubs down the admin route)
(3) Slates our ground but it is clear we have announced plans to upgrade it for 2012 and if the PI on NM goes our way, that will start being built next year. Plans seen and clearly approved by an independent firm of professional property consultants
(4) Says your results on the field have been better than ours - failing to recognise you have been playing in a different league and against part time opposition.
So to summarise, I would say he hasn't thought through his comments before making them today and may well regret them on reflection over the next few days.'"
Honestly i dont see there been anything to regret. This was our best chance of ever returning to SL, its not like any team in SL will be in a worse position in 3 years time is it? Add to that they will probably be wanting to try the Crusaders experiment once again and the dream really is over for Championship clubs as there is no chance of the league been expanded and no doubt criteria for entry will be set at a higher level than it is this time which will simply be unreachable for any team outside the top flight which isnt an expansion club.
Off to watch my team die a slow death.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Honestly i dont see there been anything to regret. This was our best chance of ever returning to SL, its not like any team in SL will be in a worse position in 3 years time is it? Add to that they will probably be wanting to try the Crusaders experiment once again and the dream really is over for Championship clubs as there is no chance of the league been expanded and no doubt criteria for entry will be set at a higher level than it is this time which will simply be unreachable for any team outside the top flight which isnt an expansion club.
Off to watch my team die a slow death.'"
And best of all , they weaken the Championship while they are doing it as well , at least we had a like for like swap with Widnes , Wakey
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| Quote ="Starbug"" Fax will be hit badly by this crowd wise I feel '"
Why?
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Not sure they were always doomed but I think they were doomed when Moss and Roberts (I love the Wrexham FC fans version - Mo$$ & Robber) were allowed to do a phoenix with the club and the financial issues around Wrexham FC grew.'"
The larger problem was the RFL ignoring warnings about Samuels right at the outset. The move to Wrexham failed to deal with the legacy of that original mistake.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Words but no meaning or substance , as usual'"
Your failure to comprehend isn't my problem. And at least I can post without juvenile insults.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots", its not like any team in SL will be in a worse position in 3 years time is it? .......................criteria for entry will be set at a higher level than it is this time ......................
Off to watch my team die a slow death.'"
On the basis of those lines, it's pretty clear Fax were not a team to bring into SL.
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| Quote ="Kosh"The larger problem was the RFL ignoring warnings about Samuels right at the outset. The move to Wrexham failed to deal with the legacy of that original mistake.'"
Maybe they should have asked Alan Rowley ? Or me even , because unless you were blind or completely stupid , the signs were there , the fact the local population hated him with a passion was one of them
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| Quote ="Kosh"The larger problem was the RFL ignoring warnings about Samuels right at the outset. The move to Wrexham failed to deal with the legacy of that original mistake.'"
But that is a little more hind-sight than anything, but I take your point.
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| Ill say again, this should not be about Wakey or Fax, this process is fundamentally flawed and an insult to Sport.
Ralph Rimmer, Richard Lewis and Nigel Wood do not possess the qualifications or inteligence to govern our Sport.
The sooner they sod off the better, I will add that as a Fax fan today im not surprised, nothing the RFL does surprises me.
But, the rest of RL should be concerned that everyone has wasted so much time and effort for nothing, not to mention the time and effort that has been spent on pipe dreams promoted by spin drs and marketing men. Its about time some of the SL chairmen grew a spine and stood up for the whole of RL and not just their own BSkyB cash cow.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Maybe they should have asked Alan Rowley ? Or me even , because unless you were blind or completely stupid , the signs were there , the fact the local population hated him with a passion was one of them'"
They were warned, on more than one occasion. They either didn't believe those warnings or chose to ignore them. Pretty much everything that followed fell out from that decision.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"But that is a little more hind-sight than anything, but I take your point.'"
It's not entirely hindsight. I can recall rumblings about Samuels at the time that Crusaders were admitted to SL. Of course hindsight certainly brings them into sharper focus and I'm certainly not claiming to have predicted the way things would go.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"But that is a little more hind-sight than anything, but I take your point.'"
No ' hindsight ' needed here , it was obvious
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| can i just put all this confusion to bed, it wasn't between Wakefield and Halifax, believe it or not Wakefields application was the best of the Grade C licences, it was between Fax and 2 others(not naming names to avoid another bickering thread)
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| Quote ="Atilla"can i just put all this confusion to bed, it wasn't between Wakefield and Halifax, believe it or not Wakefields application was the best of the Grade C licences, it was between Fax and 2 others(not naming names to avoid another bickering thread)'"
Of co it was Wakefield
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