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| Well well well, now thre RFL are takingover grounds does that mean they will be liable then for rates etc lol
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| Quote ="Speedy"Well well well, now thre RFL are takingover grounds
does that mean they will be liable then for rates etc lol'"
got to be a cool 6 figure number every year for that ground
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| Quote ="21-12"Dont really see the point in putting Warrington, Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Hull, Hull KR, Bradford, Huddersfield in the poll.
I voted for Wakefield.'"
please explain why ? what do crusaders and harlequins offer you as a 'Pie' that wakefield don't ? really interested to know
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| Quote ="quinny"please explain why ? what do crusaders and harlequins offer you as a 'Pie' that wakefield don't ? really interested to know'"
Welsh Lamb and Jellied eels? Well lets face it, they will put anything in a pie!
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| Quote ="a.n Other"[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/london/8973976.stm[/url'"
With help like that I'd rather do without, can anyone see the benefit?
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"With help like that I'd rather do without, can anyone see the benefit?'"
£700,000 worth of benefit i would assume.
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Quote ="harry1"well, i have just followed the link - says wrexham fc is about to be passed to the supporters club to run and the ground transferred to the local university - what the hell have the rfl got themselvess involved with?
www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-news/w ... -29098806/'"
Makes you wonder what will happen to the Crusaders if that does go through. Will Moss and Roberts keep them going without having the ground or the football team to worry about. I am sure i read one of the reasons that the wanted the Crusaders in Wrexham was to help out with the cost of the stadium etc.
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Quote ="harry1"well, i have just followed the link - says wrexham fc is about to be passed to the supporters club to run and the ground transferred to the local university - what the hell have the rfl got themselvess involved with?
www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-news/w ... -29098806/'"
Makes you wonder what will happen to the Crusaders if that does go through. Will Moss and Roberts keep them going without having the ground or the football team to worry about. I am sure i read one of the reasons that the wanted the Crusaders in Wrexham was to help out with the cost of the stadium etc.
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| The Wrexham situation is appalling...these owners have put Cru into admin owing aat least £700,000 to RFL and reading the Wrexham fc forum have brought the football club to its knees!!.
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| I ran a credit risk report on Crusaders RL at work yesterday just out of interest. The result: MAXIMUM RISK
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| Quote ="Knock On Nigel"I ran a credit risk report on Crusaders RL at work yesterday just out of interest. The result: MAXIMUM RISK'"
Were you thinking of lending them some money Nige?
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| Quote ="Knock On Nigel"I ran a credit risk report on Crusaders RL at work yesterday just out of interest. The result: MAXIMUM RISK'"
To be fair , I doubt you'd get much different on most pro sports clubs
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| Quote ="Knock On Nigel"I ran a credit risk report on Crusaders RL at work yesterday just out of interest. The result: MAXIMUM RISK'"
And none of the other clubs came up with the same or similar results or did you just run a check check on one club?
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| I would expect many to come back as High, but not Maximum Risk.
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| ...without having £700k in charitable donations either
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| Quote ="Knock On Nigel"...without having £700k in charitable donations either'"
So you only credit checked one club, nice balanced approch! Surely a true flat capper would have checked on Qinns and Catalans as well?
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Quote ="harry1"well, i have just followed the link - says wrexham fc is about to be passed to the supporters club to run and the ground transferred to the local university - what the hell have the rfl got themselvess involved with?
www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-news/w ... -29098806/'"
I can see this being the RFL s way out , the Uni pays the RFL the outstaning amount , the owners of the Crusaders commit to another year or two , by then both Wakey and Cas have started new stadiums , Crusaders get ditched/merged and we end up with a SL of the current clubs , less the Welsh but plus Widnes
Everybody in shiny stadiums , no more clubs in SL
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Quote ="harry1"well, i have just followed the link - says wrexham fc is about to be passed to the supporters club to run and the ground transferred to the local university - what the hell have the rfl got themselvess involved with?
www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-news/w ... -29098806/'"
I can see this being the RFL s way out , the Uni pays the RFL the outstaning amount , the owners of the Crusaders commit to another year or two , by then both Wakey and Cas have started new stadiums , Crusaders get ditched/merged and we end up with a SL of the current clubs , less the Welsh but plus Widnes
Everybody in shiny stadiums , no more clubs in SL
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| Why dont the RFL just build crusaders their own new stadium and ditch all of this fannying around?
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| Quote ="Knock On Nigel"Why dont the RFL just build crusaders their own new stadium and ditch all of this fannying around?'"
You can't have the RFL showing favouritism to one club. They would lose credibilty
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| Does anyone know if the announcement is live on radio anywhere?
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| Quote ="Alex Mc"Does anyone know if the announcement is live on radio anywhere?'"
I don't but I was just about to ask the same thing myself.
What time is the announcement being made?
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"I don't but I was just about to ask the same thing myself.
What time is the announcement being made?'"
Its at 11 on SSN. Do they do a radio station?
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| Quote ="Alex Mc"Its at 11 on SSN. Do they do a radio station?'"
Not that I am aware of.
Surely it will be on 5 live or Talksport?
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| Quote ="cocker"The Wrexham situation is appalling...these owners have put Cru into admin owing aat least £700,000 to RFL and reading the Wrexham fc forum have brought the football club to its knees!!.'"
I wrote this last night prior to the server crash -
As I understand it, and granted, only reading this from Red Passion, the WST want to buy the whole lot, ground and club. The reason is, is that their business plan does not work without them owning the ground and being able to charge the Crusaders an annual rent of around £200-£250k because they are planning to buy the club and service its huge debts to stop them being kicked out of the English Leagues (as they would have no choice but to join the Welsh FA apparently if they get kicked out).
The University want the ground and possibly have the money, but they want income from both Wrexham FC and Crusaders to make that work for them, because they will be buying the ground for around £1.5m and of course £700k of that goes to the RFL. I understand that Wrexham supporters trust only have around £500k, to date, to buy the whole lot. WST can't afford to take on the debts of the club and pay to play at the ground as well, hence the reason Crusaders are important.
This then leaves the question of Crusaders. If the Uni buys the ground, the football club manages to survive and pay rent (which is a big if it would appear), what happens to Moss and Roberts ownership of Crusaders? The rumour is Moss and Roberts only ever wanted Crusaders to prop up the ground and the football club (ironically, like everyone else does) and when they no longer own the ground or the football club, why in gods name are they going to throw loads of money at an RL because one thing is for sure, they can't even break even on average crowds below 2500 and lets remember, lots of them are not actual paying to get in!
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"I wrote this last night prior to the server crash -
As I understand it, and granted, only reading this from Red Passion, the WST want to buy the whole lot, ground and club. The reason is, is that their business plan does not work without them owning the ground and being able to charge the Crusaders an annual rent of around £200-£250k because they are planning to buy the club and service its huge debts to stop them being kicked out of the English Leagues (as they would have no choice but to join the Welsh FA apparently if they get kicked out).
The University want the ground and possibly have the money, but they want income from both Wrexham FC and Crusaders to make that work for them, because they will be buying the ground for around £1.5m and of course £700k of that goes to the RFL. I understand that Wrexham supporters trust only have around £500k, to date, to buy the whole lot. WST can't afford to take on the debts of the club and pay to play at the ground as well, hence the reason Crusaders are important.
This then leaves the question of Crusaders. If the Uni buys the ground, the football club manages to survive and pay rent (which is a big if it would appear), what happens to Moss and Roberts ownership of Crusaders? The rumour is Moss and Roberts only ever wanted Crusaders to prop up the ground and the football club (ironically, like everyone else does) and when they no longer own the ground or the football club, why in gods name are they going to throw loads of money at an RL because one thing is for sure, they can't even break even on average crowds below 2500 and lets remember, lots of them are not actual paying to get in!'"
If Wakey do get the boot (and I'm not 100% sure they will) then there will be an 'interesting' atmosphere at the Wakefield v Crusaders game this Sunday.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"If Wakey do get the boot (and I'm not 100% sure they will) then there will be an 'interesting' atmosphere at the Wakefield v Crusaders game this Sunday.'"
Yes, and I think they might be getting some t-shirts done!
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If Wakefield end up on Sky before the season end, which I doubt, I can imagine these will be popular signs in the crowd!
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