I understood that the first time round. However, I would still be interested to see how certain clubs only rated C.

Then why bother going through the scoring process at all?

The RFL announced that they were merely sending down a troubleshooting team but shortly afterwards Richard Lewis (IIRC) was asked a question on the Beeb about having lent Cru money and he went ahead and answered the question without saying "We never lent them any cash just advisors".

'Subjective opinion' and complete lack of transparency is how FIFA go about things. Not an MO to be applauded or copied I would suggest.

so to sum up the last 9 pages: the RFL should be more transparent = the RFL should say thing which confirm my opinions and prejudices and not say things which cast doubt on them.

Things tb. Things.

So you dont want the RFL to be more transparent?

I want the RFL to stop fannying around. But they won't will they because they don't grind the organ.

If you must know, it was my mum's birthday yesterday and we went out for a family meal. Just occasionally there are better things to do than be on here having circular arguments with random strangers.

I was reminded why I don't normally bother posting on this topic as well. I've said nothing controversial or even picked sides, yet my rather mild comments have been met with the usual antagonism afforded to anyone who doesn't think that the RFL are either demons from hell or faultless angels.

It's just impossible to have a sensible conversation about this topic because there are too many polarised opinions on both sides. I shall go back to looking in with amusement and keep my virtual fingers out of the meat grinder in the future.

Have fun!

Exactly.

If the RFL did show total transparency then people would still want to know more.

If they did not agree with it they would make up thier own conclusions and act as though they were fact as this whole thread, or the vast majority of it, proves.

So far Celtic Crusaders breached the salary cap, paid for flights to far off away trips in the lower leagues (even though I know for fact they travelled on virtually all trips by coach and various other 'Facts'. I guess some things will never change whatever they do and I can understand the RFL not being as transparent as some would like as it would not change anything.

If, for example, the RFL came out and said 'We've not given Celtic Crusaders/Crusaders any preferencial treatment or helped them out financially at any point' how many do yo think would believe it. Not many so what would be the point in an organisation that many disbelieve then trying to come across as open and truthful.

If making cock-ups resulted in governing bodies resigning en masse there'd be a constant churn in every sport on the planet. As for the rest, I haven't seen any evidence of collusion in the visa debacle and the other points are pretty subjective.


So the RFL have said that they won't be considering any other criteria in the next round of franchising? Should make the application process a lot shorter and simpler.

Maybe, maybe not.

I will ask again, If the Crusaders get replaced by Barrow next year, would you want to know why?

It doesn't say anything at all about the game's current method of expansion one way or another. All it says is that I wanted Starbug's reasons for demanding the resignation of the entire RFL board over one (admittedly significant) error of judgement.


And there we go. Anyone with a slightly different opinion must have an agenda, eh?

I thought this post was not worthy of your royal attention, o holy one? What changed Your Majesties mind?

To sum up, you've ignored all the points made in the last nine pages and pressed the reset (otherwise known as the panic) button. I suggest this post says more about your own prejudices than anything posted in this thread up to now.

like who?

To make the process more efficient.

anybody not judging them by subjective opinion would be truly idiotic.

Widnes or Toulouse for instance.

Things are polorised because nature deplores a vacuum. Because the RFL are so secretive about how they actually come to the conclusions they do, the void will be filled with speculation and mistrust.




It was just a poor attempt at humour, on my behalf. Don’t take such things to heart.

All the best to your Mum.

You could be right.

Sky want to interfere with how RL is run, but don’t want to be seen to be doing so.

So, no chance of transparency.

So them having to take the time to go through all the applications rather than them just picking who they want to be in SL is more efficient?

well know, they have to read all the applications to see who they want in SL.

They take out the ones who are obviously good enough (i.e the top groups) and if there are spaces left they look in to the lower groups further and make a decision on who they believe will be best placed in SL.

, or seen where these clubs have finished on the pitch , or what attendances they get, or have any idea how many players these clubs have produced , or if any of these clubs have infringed any ' operating rules ' that were in place at the time or not

Is it

you see, there you go again, confusing the franchise application and process with the tick-box process of Sky.