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| Quote ="Rhubarb Triangle". Someone mentioned Paul Davidson earlier, a fairly apt comparison, never received the abuse Bailey does, I wonder why.'"
You tell us, please do. |
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yet i bumped into a lancashire based gb international yesterday and asked him about bailey and he laughed. he agreed he was a wind up merchant but said there are plenty of them about. he said also said there were far bigger thugs about and while he didn't particularly like bailey he couldn't see why he gets the stick he does
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| Quote ="tad rhino"yet i bumped into a lancashire based gb international yesterday and asked him about bailey and he laughed. he agreed he was a wind up merchant but said there are plenty of them about. he said also said there were far bigger thugs about and while he didn't particularly like bailey he couldn't see why he gets the stick he does'"
Because he never gets punished for it is probably why people give him stick.
He's not done anything of major note (i.e. finger someone's anus or grab someone's nuts in the tackle), but he has consistently been a thuggish and cowardly player in pretty much every game he's played in in SL.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Without predjudice?
Bailey's actions may have been worthy of a penalty, but Radford's reaction was ridiculous. I'd have been happy with a yellow but accept a red.
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| Quote ="Dunbar"Of course I read the first post, I quoted it in my reply
You specifically stated, "...in fact if we're being brutally honest, perhaps if Radford was black and Bailey white a lot of those sticking up for Radford might have very different opinions..." which explicitly implies that many of the people are using race to base their opinions
My reply, which I stand by, is that this is a slight on the supporters of Rugby League which has a reputation as one of the most inclusive sports in the country and has broken down many racial barriers (i.e. fist black national captain, first black national coach)
Please tell me where I misinterpreted your statement'"
Jeez you're hard work.
Ok lets take it step by step...
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"
People seem to hate Lauaki as well'"
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| Quote ="Rhubarb Triangle"It really is hilarious a few elbows, knees and sly digs here and there garner such bile and vitriol. Someone mentioned Paul Davidson earlier, a fairly apt comparison, never received the abuse Bailey does, I wonder why.'"
A few reasons off the top of my head would be that Davidson used to get sent off and banned for his indiscretions (which tended to be more blatant and less sly), he would fight his own battles, people didn't make him out to be the most feared man in rugby league, he didn't get found guilty of shoeing someone in the street and he had a lower profile as he also didn't play for a three time champion team or represent GB. |
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"A few reasons off the top of my head would be that Davidson used to get sent off and banned for his indiscretions (which tended to be more blatant and less sly), he would fight his own battles, people didn't make him out to be the most feared man in rugby league, he didn't get found guilty of shoeing someone in the street and he had a lower profile as he also didn't play for a three time champion team or represent GB.'"
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| Quote ="Donna"There is no place for reason and logic on this thread - go hang your head in shame!'"
Oh, and he was part of the Aryan race - which as we all know is of utmost importance to RL fans.
Another key reason Bailey gets more stick than most other unpleasant players is that Leeds fans go to such lengths to defend his behaviour, whilst nobody bothered defending the likes of Paul Davidson as he was clearly a cretin - in fact his own supporters turned on him at Saints. |
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I am a bit suprised that people have barely mentioned Bailey's mini-rampage after the event.
His elbows to Radford? Pah so what. Radford reacting by punching Bailey on the ground was not worthy of Radford and warranted the red card he was shown, not a yellow.
But the red-mist that came down on Bailey thereafter and the lunge with the head towards Long (I'd say headbut but then I'd just be being racist) seemed to be to also warrant a red card to me.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Oh, and he was part of the Aryan race - which as we all know is of utmost importance to RL fans.
Another key reason Bailey gets more stick than most other unpleasant players is that Leeds fans go to such lengths to defend his behaviour, whilst nobody bothered defending the likes of Paul Davidson as he was clearly a cretin - in fact his own supporters turned on him at Saints.'"
Yes, the fact he was severely shiote AND used to give penalties away meant we didn't much like him. In fact, didn't he give the pop side the Vs in response to our boos when he got sin binned in a derby game? |
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| Quote ="Shaggoth"But the red-mist that came down on Bailey thereafter and the lunge with the head towards Long (I'd say headbut but then I'd just be being racist) seemed to be to also warrant a red card to me.'"
If you're going to red card people for getting angry after getting punched to the head you'll be watching Sevens before long... |
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"If you're going to red card people for getting angry after getting punched to the head you'll be watching Sevens before long...'"
What about red carding peopel for getting angry after getting elbowed to the head? ATEOTD Lee Radford, despite been a prop/second rower for 11 years has never been sent off, it must have taken something major for him to lose his cool because I've never seen him lost it before like that.
The fact Barry McDermott (a Leeds employee) suggests that it shouldn't have been a sending off says it all. People who have a clue about the game e.g. the people who have played it don't think he should have been sent off and that a sin-bin for both would have cooled it off but once again we get an incompetent muppett in the middle whose ruined the full game. |
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"The fact Barry McDermott (a Leeds employee) suggests that it shouldn't have been a sending off says it all. '"
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"What about red carding peopel for getting angry after getting elbowed to the head? ATEOTD Lee Radford, despite been a prop/second rower for 11 years has never been sent off, it must have taken something major for him to lose his cool because I've never seen him lost it before like that.'"
If all Radford had done was get angry, not a problem.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"If all Radford had done was get angry, not a problem.
Fact is, that's not all he did is it?'"
If all Bailey had done was get angry, not a problem.
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| Quote ="Ian P"Ryan Bailey
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and how many of those was he found guilty of? im not sure we should really hold someone being judged innocent as evidence of their guilt, seems a bit silly really |
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"and how many of those was he found guilty of? im not sure we should really hold someone being judged innocent as evidence of their guilt, seems a bit silly really'"
You can put whatever slant on it you want all I am stating is he has made a lot of appearances in the last three seasons and that usually points to someone skirting the edges of the rules at best................... |
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rufX8VJ2wVEDoes it really?[/url'"
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| Quote ="Ian P"You can put whatever slant on it you want all I am stating is he has made a lot of appearances in the last three seasons and that usually points to someone skirting the edges of the rules at best...................'"
He is a prop forward, its what Prop forwards do,
show me a Prop who doesnt skirt the edges of the rules at times and ill show you poor Prop |
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"He is a prop forward, its what Prop forwards do,
show me a Prop who doesnt skirt the edges of the rules at times and ill show you poor Prop'"
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| Quote ="Paul Thexton"James Graham has just two reviewed incidents since 2008 according to the RFL disciplinary site. I'd hardly call him a poor prop.'"
I heard the torpedo ram into the side of the ship then 
Can I lob in an exocet at this point
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| Quote ="Paul Thexton"James Graham has just two reviewed incidents since 2008 according to the RFL disciplinary site. I'd hardly call him a poor prop.'" that would be the James Graham banned for two matches for a late high challenge on Rob Burrow? Maybe thats one of Grahams problems he can tend to get a bit bullied |
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