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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Do you mean how to deal with it as in : Whether to contact your GP, or whether to put you forward to this society [urlhttp://www.societyofs.co.uk/[/url or, the final option, whether to get the straight jacket out and load you up for a long journey to Broadmoor.'"
Leave our Damo alone you great big bull(y).
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| My point about not wanting another prop instead of Bailey seems to need explaining. I made this point because Bailey does a job at Leeds that no other prop could do. We don't need another workhorse ala Graham because we've got Peacock to do that. He's a Leeds lad who knows the majority of our team (Those who've come through the academy) like the back of his hand meaning his link up play could never be matched by someone brought in. Bailey niggles and winds up the opposition better than anyone since Sonny Nickle or perhaps Barrie McDermott.
More of the same in 2010 please Ryan.
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| Quote ="Bob-Marley"My point about not wanting another prop instead of Bailey seems to need explaining. I made this point because Bailey does a job at Leeds that no other prop could do. We don't need another workhorse ala Graham because we've got Peacock to do that. He's a Leeds lad who knows the majority of our team (Those who've come through the academy) like the back of his hand meaning his link up play could never be matched by someone brought in. Bailey niggles and winds up the opposition better than anyone since Sonny Nickle or perhaps Barrie McDermott.
More of the same in 2010 please Ryan.'"
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| Quote ="Bob-Marley"My point about not wanting another prop instead of Bailey seems to need explaining. I made this point because Bailey does a job at Leeds that no other prop could do. We don't need another workhorse ala Graham because we've got Peacock to do that. He's a Leeds lad who knows the majority of our team (Those who've come through the academy) like the back of his hand meaning his link up play could never be matched by someone brought in. Bailey niggles and winds up the opposition better than anyone since Sonny Nickle or perhaps Barrie McDermott.
More of the same in 2010 please Ryan.'"
It didn't need explaining to those of us who know what he brings to the team year after year!
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| Someone said Leeds would take 50 props over Bailey. How bizarre. Name me 50 better props and I'll bet you could debate well over half being 'better'. If you add in the fact that Bailey's almost certainly not on anything like the money of a Peacock or Graham (or a top Aussie) and that comment is absolutely ridiculous. How about an easier challenge - name me ten better props in SL likely to be on similar money. Because that is a valid comparison - not to James Graham or Morley.
By the way, IMO Bailey had a very big impact in this year's GF - his running and defence were both very very good. He and Luke Burgess both made significant impacts from the bench.
Anyway, Leeds must be a really good side when our number 4 prop gets this much attention.
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| Radfords hardest man in superleague, words from the man himself barrie mc! might not show it or be the best rugby player but if were talking about hard as nails he's at the top!
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| This isn't really a thread thats had much discussion is it? Several posters from other teams come and post about how Bailey is a thug, a sh*t house etc, and don't back it up. It is easy to start a thread to lay into a player and I could start many like a Leon pryce thread or a terry Newton thread. Some posters sound like when they go to see their team play leeds they only watch Bailey and they notice everything he does! It has been said before and I'll say it again Bailey has stay'd in a team that has won 4 Grand finals for a reason.
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| Quote ="harker"Radfords hardest man in superleague, words from the man himself barrie mc! might not show it or be the best rugby player but if were talking about hard as nails he's at the top!'"
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino" How about an easier challenge - name me ten better props in SL likely to be on similar money. .'"
Craig Kopzcak, Luke Burgess, Nick Fozzard, Nick Scruton, Bryn Hargreaves, Paul Prescott, Keith Mason, Paul Wood, Ricky Bibey and David Mills.
Alot of them questionable yes, but we've all got time to debate as its christmas
Yeah, and Merry christmas by the way
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Craig Kopzcak, Luke Burgess, Nick Fozzard, Nick Scruton, Bryn Hargreaves, Paul Prescott, Keith Mason, Paul Wood, Ricky Bibey and David Mills.
Alot of them questionable yes, but we've all got time to debate as its christmas
Yeah, and Merry christmas by the way
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Scruton,Mason and i bet Hargreaves are on more money than Bailey,Kopzcak has done jack sh#t,Mills and Bibey
Wood is biscuit boned and Fozzard is well past it.
Prescott has looked pretty decent when i've seen him but i wouldn't have him over bailey either.
That leaves young Luke Burgess who has got great potential and is maturing well but is still short in terms of Baileys ability,agility and consistency,plus they are different types of props.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Scruton,Mason and i bet Hargreaves are on more money than Bailey,Kopzcak has done jack sh#t,Mills and Bibey
Wood is biscuit boned and Fozzard is well past it.
Prescott has looked pretty decent when i've seen him but i wouldn't have him over bailey either.
That leaves young Luke Burgess who has got great potential and is maturing well but is still short in terms of Baileys ability,agility and consistency,plus they are different types of props.'"
dont fall into the trap of doing what you are criticizing others for doing re; bailey. whilst having a relatively poor penultimate season at wakey, his first and last we pretty decent all in all and for what is likely to have been peanuts. always onto hands and knees, quick play the ball, always willing to take it in and not bad hands either. he will be given a decent reception if he ever plays aginst us i would imagine
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| Quote ="St. Chunter"dont fall into the trap of doing what you are criticizing others for doing re; bailey. whilst having a relatively poor penultimate season at wakey, his first and last we pretty decent all in all and for what is likely to have been peanuts. always onto hands and knees, quick play the ball, always willing to take it in and not bad hands either. he will be given a decent reception if he ever plays aginst us i would imagine'"
I was just responding to ewennorfolk mate re-his list of 10 props comparing to bailey and i know exactly what yer saying!!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Scruton,Mason and i bet Hargreaves are on more money than Bailey,Kopzcak has done jack sh#t,Mills and Bibey
Wood is biscuit boned and Fozzard is well past it.
Prescott has looked pretty decent when i've seen him but i wouldn't have him over bailey either.
That leaves young Luke Burgess who has got great potential and is maturing well but is still short in terms of Baileys ability,agility and consistency,plus they are different types of props.'"
I doubt Hargreaves is, and I imagine Mason won't be too much over. Kopzcak put in some quality performances for us last season, and has age on his side. Mills, again, bags of potential. Okay, Bibey and Fozzard maybe not, but Prescott I would take over Bailey and I'd have a think about Wood.
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