Regarding the Webb incident, it was probably technically the right decision. All I can say is it's a good job they didn't apply that law when Ellery Hanley was playing or he'd never have scored a try !

The second Bradford try was a joke though and clearly the wrong decision. An offence was committed by Newton that should have been a penalty to Leeds. It makes absolutely no difference whether the player he took out would have got to the kicker or not. It's still a penalty to take out a player like that regardless of the circumstances. The offence happened prior to the try being scored and at that point the play should be dead. Shocking decision.

tbh I've not seen the Leeds/Bradford game yet, but I assume he was up to his normal standards?

The think that narks me about the Burrow no try is the fact that you would have to penalise every prop forward when one of the back 3 plays the ball after the kick return.

I don't write the rules. He was offside for that one play the ball.

It's no good trying to get pedantic, the player is offside for the one tackle, if another tackle is completed then the offside/onside starts again from that ptb.

Again, who defines what consitutes a pass? JJB transfered the ball to McGuire. Players often don't have control of the ball when "passing", with many similar flicks taking place. Again, I will re-itterate, if Ian Smith called a forward pass, perfectly fine, Smith would NEVER have called that as a knock-on though. Surely you can agree with me there? If he decided there was an offence at the time of occurance, it would have been a forward pass and not knock on.

Its no good getting pedantic? The irony.

Well if a player runs forward after [ipassing[/i the ball its legal even though the ball has gone forwards.

Not really as most Props wouldn't have got involved in the next play the ball usually as it was a backs try.

Several players were hit off the ball through-out the game, that went unpunished, from both teams.

On your first point, like I said earlier, it does happen occasionally, but if they don't get involved (ie make a tackle) then there is no penalty given. A good ref will communicate and tell them they are offside and they won't make a tackle.

re Webb, it's a good point, but one that would happen unfortunately, it is a quirk, but one which rarely happens, hence the discussion here, as it was a rare one.

Correct. And last night at the Quins match. Didn't cost us the match or anything but was generally inept.

At least nobody (apart from 1 buffoon) is disagreeing with Aliberts ignorance when it came to Newton taking JJB out off the ball.

I thought Ganson reffed the derby fine.
He let things flow and allowed rugby as it should be imo.

If the ball leaves your hands in a forward motion, then its a forward pass, that's pretty much end of story.

He didn't pass it anyway.

I don't agree.

When a ref has to make a call on a pass, he looks at how the player is holding the ball, which direction his hands are facing etc. This 'pass' from JJB had none of these characteristics to look at, which suggests to me that it isn't technically a pass, and it is fair to assume that the ball has come off his hand, and if the decision is that the ball has gone forward, then it is a knock on.
It had no characteristics of a traditional RL pass.

You may think the Webb decision is pedantic, but the bloke was 8-10m offside.

So now it was a forward pass? Make your mind up.

When Alibert is reffing he creates confusion amongst fans and players.
He gives incorrect signals etc. and the top and bottom of it is he isn't good enough.

So are you telling me neither team went offside once in 80 minutes? What happens in the next match? Ignore the rules then too? Just so the game can "flow". Pathetic argument IMO.

I agree with you here. He gave one decision in the Quins-Catalans match that baffled me when he blew his whistle and confused me even more than he gave a totally unrecognisable signal.

I understand what your saying. If Webb had of just stayed out of the play, then a try would have been given, so in that respect i agree with you.

Hence why i said, he didn't pass it anyway, because it was a knock on.

'Could you please change m' was trying to say that the ball could be passed forward as long as the player runs forward, but IMO, this isn't the case, and i was clearing that up. As i have said, it was a knock on, as he didn't pass the ball and if Sinfield wasn't there it would have gone to ground a knock on been given.

And that is the issue that people are failing to grasp!!!

The issue wasn't that Webb was in front of the ptb, this happens all the time with forwards struggling to get back after a kick, the issue was that he then interfered.

If you are in front of the ptb, you are ruled out of that tackle.

In fact I have come to the conclusion he is deranged.
In fact he has a pathological hatred of RL and is on a mission to send the SL into disarray with his randomness.



WE HAVE TO MAKE A STAND!

if webb had made a attempt to get back onside it would have been given...but he did'nt..






as for the rest of the game....the amount of forward passes that got missed was shocking