What's not funny is how YOU have turned a thread about promising Rugby League players into a pointless, nonsensical argument.

Discrimination not differentiation is racism - but of course that doesn't suit your arguement or lack of it.

Why do you think virtually every 100m Olympic champion has been of afro/carib extraction? do you think it might have something to do with their genes - every serious sports scientist think that is the vital differentiation - does that make them racists too or does it just make you into a poster without any credibility?

whats a pure pom

Dally knows the only way the Aussies can challenge the Kiwis is to fill the team with players who could actually play for the numerous South Sea Island countries - at the end of the day that is all that really matters to him is Australia winning everything - how sad it was that an Aussies side full of Polynesians was beating by a Kiwi side full of Polynesians.

What is sad is that if the South Sea Islands traeted rugby like the West Indies do cricket they would wipe the floor with everyone - pity they don't get the chance

A good sport who accepts defeat as the norm

good to see youve avoided the term pure.

Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"Discrimination not differentiation is racism - but of course that doesn't suit your arguement or lack of it. Why do you think virtually every 100m Olympic champion has been of afro/carib extraction? do you think it might have something to do with their genes - every serious sports scientist think that is the vital differentiation - does that make them racists too or does it just make you into a poster without any credibility?'" this was the problem i had with your post. heres the definition of it : www.yourdictionary.com/pure adjective pur′er, pur′·est : free from any adulterant; unmixed pure maple syrup free from anything that taints, impairs, infects, etc.; clear pure water or air simple; mere pure luck utter; absolute; sheer pure lunacy free from defects; perfect; faultless free from sin or guilt; blameless virgin or chaste of unmixed stock; purebred restricted to the abstract or theoretical aspects pure physics BIBLE ceremonially undefiled PHONET. articulated without any change in quality and with virtually no movement of the vocal organs; monophthongal (e) is a pure vowel when you combine any of those definitions with a nationality the result isnt good. it appears you are backing off from that description which proves my point it was a very poor choice of words.

Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"Discrimination not differentiation is racism - but of course that doesn't suit your arguement or lack of it. Why do you think virtually every 100m Olympic champion has been of afro/carib extraction? do you think it might have something to do with their genes - every serious sports scientist think that is the vital differentiation - does that make them racists too or does it just make you into a poster without any credibility?'" this was the problem i had with your post. heres the definition of it : www.yourdictionary.com/pure adjective pur′er, pur′·est : free from any adulterant; unmixed pure maple syrup free from anything that taints, impairs, infects, etc.; clear pure water or air simple; mere pure luck utter; absolute; sheer pure lunacy free from defects; perfect; faultless free from sin or guilt; blameless virgin or chaste of unmixed stock; purebred restricted to the abstract or theoretical aspects pure physics BIBLE ceremonially undefiled PHONET. articulated without any change in quality and with virtually no movement of the vocal organs; monophthongal (e) is a pure vowel when you combine any of those definitions with a nationality the result isnt good. it appears you are backing off from that description which proves my point it was a very poor choice of words.

Just like you have avoided the whole arguement in an attempt to deflect the attention away from you idiotic rantings.

My definition of a pure Australian is as follows - a person whose family through various generations have originated in Australia. That excludes all the first generation players whose parents have emigrated from the various Polynesian islands to Australia.

Is that simple enough for you - I would hate there to be an ambiguity

Quote ="dally messenger"this was the problem i had with your post. heres the definition of it : www.yourdictionary.com/pure adjective pur′er, pur′·est : free from any adulterant; unmixed pure maple syrup free from anything that taints, impairs, infects, etc.; clear pure water or air simple; mere pure luck utter; absolute; sheer pure lunacy free from defects; perfect; faultless free from sin or guilt; blameless virgin or chaste of unmixed stock; purebred restricted to the abstract or theoretical aspects pure physics BIBLE ceremonially undefiled PHONET. articulated without any change in quality and with virtually no movement of the vocal organs; monophthongal (e) is a pure vowel when you combine any of those definitions with a nationality the result isnt good. it appears you are backing off from that description which proves my point it was a very poor choice of words.'" Complete rubbish - all this is a smokescreen an attempt to cover up the rantings of fool

Quote ="dally messenger"this was the problem i had with your post. heres the definition of it : www.yourdictionary.com/pure adjective pur′er, pur′·est : free from any adulterant; unmixed pure maple syrup free from anything that taints, impairs, infects, etc.; clear pure water or air simple; mere pure luck utter; absolute; sheer pure lunacy free from defects; perfect; faultless free from sin or guilt; blameless virgin or chaste of unmixed stock; purebred restricted to the abstract or theoretical aspects pure physics BIBLE ceremonially undefiled PHONET. articulated without any change in quality and with virtually no movement of the vocal organs; monophthongal (e) is a pure vowel when you combine any of those definitions with a nationality the result isnt good. it appears you are backing off from that description which proves my point it was a very poor choice of words.'" Complete rubbish - all this is a smokescreen an attempt to cover up the rantings of fool

made my point perfectly.

Jamal Idris named in the NRL team of the week

The Herald's team of experts pick the best 13 from round one of the National Rugby League.

1. Billy Slater (Storm)
2. Nathan Merritt (Rabbitohs)
3. Jamal Idris (Bulldogs)
4. Michael Jennings (Panthers)
5. Hazem El Masri (Bulldogs)
6. Greg Inglis (Storm)
7. Chris Sandow (Rabbitohs)
8. Steve Price (Warriors)
9. Nathan Friend (Titans)
10. Adam Blair (Storm)
=red11. Gareth Ellis (Tigers)
12. Sam Thaiday (Broncos)
13. Paul Gallen (Sharks)

Ellis had an excellent debut.

You are in a minority of one with that view - let's face it you have been proved once again to post complete rubbish - if it were just me OK but it is not it virtually everyone who reads your diatribe - you do not answer specific points and as so such your posts are simply the ramblings of an idiot who has very little knowledge of RL and even less knowledge of life outside RL

Thats because he is a good player.

Leon Pryce, Sean Long, Jamie Peacock, Rob Burrow, Danny Mcguire etc... would all play well in the NRL.

Players like Mathers, Mason, Edmondson and Sibbit where all crap in Super League its not that they could'nt hack the NRL.

I just don't get how they got NRL contracts... of all the players they could take and already produce

experiments

He played pretty good for his first game.
Whether he can sustain it week in week out as he gets targeted by the other teams hit merchants will decide how he is judged over a season.

The other players you mention would have to back themselves to be judged on how they would go.
Several have talked about testing their arm in the NRL McGuire in particular without doing anything about it and signing long term SL contracts.

Pryce is average in my opinion. (brittle and goes missing entire games)
Long and Peacock are on the way down.

The players mentioned above should have had a go when they were at the top of their game, they showed bugger all in last years World Cup.
Gleeson is a current Test centre and wanted a move to the NRL but got no offers.
"Mason, Edmondson and Sibbit " did these players move to the NRL? I have never heard of them, did they get any game time.
Mathers was an up and comer supposedly when he joined the Titans and played 5 games before injury. (then he quit)

Next you will be saying Wellens is "World Class"

Fact is, Ellis is a big hitter too, so he will give it back as good as he gets!

He'll go fine, and i think he will get a rep as big as Morley did down under

I hope he does.
Its a credit to him that he backed himself and signed with one of the underdog Clubs
He spoke well after the game, I hope he does really well.

Lets hope Ellis can continue to do the business - it will hopefully show the way for other better british players that there is a life outside SL and if you want to know how good you really are then a test against the best is the way

sibbit played 19 games for the storm in 2002 before coming back to warrington. Where we had him out of position in the centres pluggin a gap as we were before he left us.

Cant be the same ellis as the one who started at Wakefield then!!!!

you can watch all the games on testra big pond for free bigpondvideo.com/nrl/113208

you can watch all the games on testra big pond for free bigpondvideo.com/nrl/113208

You dont need to 'test' yourself in the NRL to know your a good player. The players i mentioned are class players. Thats not an opinion it is a fact!

Put it one way, Paul Wellens is 'not' World class but his a hell of alot better than the likes of Luke Pattern and Rhys Wesser who are number 1's for their respective clubs in the NRL (Bulldogs and Souths). However he is nowhere in the same class as your Slaters and Stewarts.

The point is most decent decent super league players could get a regular spot in an NRL team, thats not saying they're world class.

We'll be able to see Idris again this weekend on Setanta. Panthers Vs Bulldogs.