So do you think he should play before his trial?

No, but that’s exactly what happens in Aus with the Integrity Unit.. The ‘no fault stand-down’ policy is exactly this.

Perhaps worth remembering that the other party isn’t the one facing trial and avoid the victim blaming.
To reach this stage, the debate isn’t about whether a crime has been committed. It’s about whether there is enough evidence to convict a particular individual of perpetrating it.

Honestly, I’m unsure.
One one hand, at the moment he’s an innocent man; on the other, he’s facing trial for a serious offence.
My original point was that I don’t think Leigh should have signed a player facing an imminent trial for GBH, and that it’s not the image the game should be promoting.

I'll leave it there then.

Ther is nothing wrong with accepting that there are different perspectives!
Of course, at times we do restrict the employment of people accused of criminal offences. Whether that’s appropriate for an RL player, I’m not sure.

What I am sure of is that some kind of Integrity Unit in the UK game, capable of suspending players for off-field behaviour, would be a welcome introduction.

I dont think he should play no.

Terrible decision all round and again, makes a mockery of our sport.

Like beating up women, drink driving, homophobia, taking illicit drugs or bashing students? Cant get a job elsewhere because no one will employ you? No worries, come to super league in England, we are desperate. Never played rugby before? Doesnt matter, as long as you tick on of the aforementioned boxes we will have you

Agreed.

I would rather Leigh had searched harder & longer for a player of calibre & without the negative baggage.

Quote ="Durham Giant"No he should have been stood down as soon he was charged as that means that CPS have determined their is a better than 70 %chance of conviction. =#FF0000You know this because a) you are a police officer ? b) a member of the CPS ? or c) you are a lawyer ? It is not as if he was a Leigh player they have signed him knowing he is in court soon. It is a shocking decision Regardless of whether other teams have done the same two wrongs don’t make a right. This condones an acceptance of DV.. even if he does not get convicted as the victim is in Back in NZ this may harm evidence against him , he may even get off with a lesser charge but the headlines say it all https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -club.html The headlines also say that Leigh and Wire were happy to ignore the above . =#FF0000Where do the headlines say they are happy to ignore ? =#FF0000No they don't !!! You have provided a link that was published in July 2020, the headlines =#FF0000DO NOT say that at all !!! In fact Leigh are not mentioned at all as they had no interest or connections & Warrington suspended Gelling & then got rid of him. When Greg Johnson did the same he never played for the Giants again. Both of them are scum'" FWIW , I believe that the RFL & SL should block any signings of players with ongoing or proven offences at this level, the same goes for the likes of Foloau, Chase, Barba, Hardaker & just for fun Joel Monaghan the Dog Botherer & Tomkins the Rectum of Wigan for example.

Quote ="Durham Giant"No he should have been stood down as soon he was charged as that means that CPS have determined their is a better than 70 %chance of conviction. =#FF0000You know this because a) you are a police officer ? b) a member of the CPS ? or c) you are a lawyer ? It is not as if he was a Leigh player they have signed him knowing he is in court soon. It is a shocking decision Regardless of whether other teams have done the same two wrongs don’t make a right. This condones an acceptance of DV.. even if he does not get convicted as the victim is in Back in NZ this may harm evidence against him , he may even get off with a lesser charge but the headlines say it all https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -club.html The headlines also say that Leigh and Wire were happy to ignore the above . =#FF0000Where do the headlines say they are happy to ignore ? =#FF0000No they don't !!! You have provided a link that was published in July 2020, the headlines =#FF0000DO NOT say that at all !!! In fact Leigh are not mentioned at all as they had no interest or connections & Warrington suspended Gelling & then got rid of him. When Greg Johnson did the same he never played for the Giants again. Both of them are scum'" FWIW , I believe that the RFL & SL should block any signings of players with ongoing or proven offences at this level, the same goes for the likes of Foloau, Chase, Barba, Hardaker & just for fun Joel Monaghan the Dog Botherer & Tomkins the Rectum of Wigan for example.

I work in child protection and probably the biggest issue we take up is domestic violence probably over 50% of cases.

I liaise with the police, women’s refuges , probation etc on a daily basis. The cps don’t take cases to court unless they have a high percentage of getting a conviction. So they do not think there is evidence , they have to pass a test which is , on the evidence available is their a realistic proposition that the court will convict. They have to be satisfied the evidence is there and strong enough to convince a judge and jury they will convict the perpetrator. The more serious the offence the more they have to satisfy themselves that they are likely to get a conviction


As this case is in very much in the public domain hence my link to a newspaper article there are many others it my view it does diminish the game and makes Leigh look bad that they are prepared to give a short term contract to someone because they think he may not be around for along contract does suggest that they are aware of the issues but have chosen to ignore them for some short term benefit.. it is just plain wrong

I can’t believe there are people in this thread sticking up for Leigh and the maggot himself by stating “innocent until proven guilty” or something along those lines.

We know her face was smashed in and was hospitalised. Do you all think she fell into a wall or something? You should all be Ashamed.

We know you are a WUM just trying to get a reaction from the Leigh supporters, then when you do will whine you are being bullied.
Why don't you try to post about genuine RL issues instead of being a WUM? You might actually enjoy it?

It's easy for you, some of us haven't got your criminal law expertise.

Not yet into May and we have the post of the year already.



Great stuff



Just noted that Leigh are now up to 10th. place

Slow but steady progress towards survival.

I think you’ll find we are DOWN to 10th place - 2 games in and we are in free fall

It will be very interesting as the rounds go by. You just need to do better than one other club this time, unlike last time when you went down without coming last..

Who do you think that could be??

A few "four pointers" to look forward to.........

Leigh Centurions have signed Sam Stone & Jai Whitbread from the Gold Coast Titans.

Carney on tv last night seemed to suggest no relegation this year. Good news for Leigh who can now build for next year rather than have to bring in what’s left on the marked in November.

Just read that Joey Lussick is off to Saints next season. F*ck me it's depressing being a Salford fan and seeing all our ex-players floating around SL. Surprised he's coming back tbh as if surplus to requirements at The Eels I'd have thought someone else in the NRL would've snapped him up.

I’ve been told there is no truth in the rumour. That said, I would have him at Saints. He was quality for Salford

Salford Out Lee Mossop retiring with immediate effect. Thanks for the memories Moose and THAT try at the piedome. Shared from BBC Sport Lee Mossop: Shoulder issue forces Salford Red Devils skipper's retirement aged 32 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/58145873 In Brodie Croft (Brisbane Broncos) Hopefully he has the "Jacko" effect on the club as by all accounts he was a bit of a star at Melbourne Storm. Not happened for him at The Broncos but fingers crossed.... https://www.facebook.com/20460806973373 ... 6757890395

Salford Out Lee Mossop retiring with immediate effect. Thanks for the memories Moose and THAT try at the piedome. Shared from BBC Sport Lee Mossop: Shoulder issue forces Salford Red Devils skipper's retirement aged 32 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/58145873 In Brodie Croft (Brisbane Broncos) Hopefully he has the "Jacko" effect on the club as by all accounts he was a bit of a star at Melbourne Storm. Not happened for him at The Broncos but fingers crossed.... https://www.facebook.com/20460806973373 ... 6757890395

You wouldn't want have thought it when Foloau was signed. The outcry to that signing was nothing short of a joke when you look at the various other crimes others have been guilty of.

Falou was the worst guy ever but the violent players, no problem.

The back to back champions have announced the signing of Tonga's captain and ex State of Origin centre, Will Hopoate

Chris Chester has departed as Coach of Trinity.

St Helens have signed star Paramatta Eels hooker Joey Lussick