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| Hull look a darn site better on paper than we do and it will take a monumental effort from us tommorow as i feel they will be too strong , too quick and too skillfull , yes we will be better than last year but still not a top 4 side . Those positions will be filled by Saints , Hull , Wire and Wigan probably in that order
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Think some people are massively over estimateing Hull, people making out they are major total contenders, rather than perpetual under achicivers. =#FF0000Radford will not see the season out if or when they inevitably hit one of their slumps, think they are 5 placed side at very best, yes they have been on the spend and packed the side with big Pacific Islanders, but have a crap coach and too many tantrum players with egos and attitudes.
They may win tomorrow but if they do it won't be the easy win some of our so called fans are willing for.
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My guess is that Agar will be gone before Radford. Agar and Webster what winning credentials have they got?
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| Quote ="ant1"My guess is that Agar will be gone before Radford. Agar and Webster what winning credentials have they got?'"
Or is that just what you are hoping for, you are you one of those people who thinks we should of and could of pulled out the next über coach from the NRL from out of Nowhere.
Agar might not be a truly great coach but is a steady Eddie and we need that for the next year or two. Radford has had plenty of chances and plenty of money to throw around for a number of years now and as got nowhere near a grand final winning side, anything less than top 3 and a grand final or challenge cup and he will be gone for next year. Unlike Agar who will not be under the same pressure and will be safe for this year minimum, if and when a better option comes along he may get moved upstairs, but I suspect he will over see succession from within, Rob may have been the natural successor in a year or two, but Has a more important battle to worry about.
Ps there are currently only about 3 coaches in super league that have won trophies and the most successful one is our former coach, so what's your point
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| Quote ="ant1"My guess is that Agar will be gone before Radford. Agar and Webster what winning credentials have they got?'"
Agar won’t be gone no matter what. He will be back in his appointed position, once the other is qualified. This ruse I stated on here last June, when people were speculating on Furners replacement.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Fonua and Kelly playing for Hull reserves today.'"
Who's playing at 6 for them tomorrow? Connor?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Agar won’t be gone no matter what. He will be back in his appointed position, once the other is qualified. This ruse I stated on here last June, when people were speculating on Furners replacement.'"
? Be a good 2-3 years before JJB is qualified Gotcha its a long time to steady the ship if results are not going your way?
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| Quote ="tomtom84"? Be a good 2-3 years before JJB is qualified Gotcha its a long time to steady the ship if results are not going your way?'"
Qualified interms of paper qualification? Wont take 5 minutes!
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| Quote ="Seth"Qualified interms of paper qualification? Wont take 5 minutes!'"
What would be the point in that though. Just a face to make the fans happy? If Agars still pulling the strings in the back ground its a waste of time? Cant see it to be honest be another 2 coaches before that happens. Ive read its Kevs long term view to have the head coach come from within but for me JJB needs to earn his stripes and manage his own team to gain experience and im sure Jamie would want to coach on his own terms not be managed by Agar and Kev?
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| Appreciate all that. I was just commenting on how long it would take to attend the relevant courses. Unless by qualified you meant experienced. Incidentally, listening to chev walkers recent interviews he seems miles off, doesnt fill me with any confidence at all.
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| Quote ="tomtom84"What would be the point in that though. Just a face to make the fans happy? If Agars still pulling the strings in the back ground its a waste of time? Cant see it to be honest be another 2 coaches before that happens. Ive read its Kevs long term view to have the head coach come from within but for me JJB needs to earn his stripes and manage his own team to gain experience and im sure Jamie would want to coach on his own terms not be managed by Agar and Kev?'"
I doubt he is pulling the strings now.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Who's playing at 6 for them tomorrow? Connor?'"
Yes, unfortunately
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| Quote ="Seth"Appreciate all that. I was just commenting on how long it would take to attend the relevant courses. Unless by qualified you meant experienced. Incidentally, listening to chev walkers recent interviews he seems miles off, doesnt fill me with any confidence at all.'"
Ah yes i agree. Not seen the walker interviews but again the fella has never coached his own team so i guess hes learning too?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I doubt he is pulling the strings now.'"
Off field in regards to recruitment and forward planning No i agree. But watching the show on sky the other night he seemed to be well in control of the on field stuff.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Agar won’t be gone no matter what. He will be back in his appointed position, once the other is qualified. This ruse I stated on here last June, when people were speculating on Furners replacement.'" Have you been told this or is it just a hunch?
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| Quote ="tomtom84"Off field in regards to recruitment and forward planning No i agree. But watching the show on sky the other night he seemed to be well in control of the on field stuff.'" I would think he does plus it was Agar who suggested we sign Martin.
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| I do have the feeling leeds will get the win with Lui and Gale the difference.
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| I think it will be awhile before we can pass judgment on this Leeds team . I think it will be an up and down season ,but a bit of improvement on last year
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| Dissapointed to see Mellor and Donaldson there with no Holroyd given ava is missing
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| Bench does look a bit lightweight...
If we’re planning on running a big Hull pack off their feet we must hold onto the ball.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Bench does look a bit lightweight...
If we’re planning on running a big Hull pack off their feet we must hold onto the ball.'"
Sounds like a familiar plan that failed last year many times
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| Fair start from Leeds after a couple of very basic errors from Martin. Gale also murdered Lui with that pass of the Hull 10.
Let’s see how we go when the subs come on.
Connor is a grub, he’s always elbows and knees when defending.
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| When will the club finally realise just how crap our left winger is. Bombs a chance no other winger would miss, and completely missing for Hull try.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"When will the club finally realise just how crap our left winger is. Bombs a chance no other winger would miss, and completely missing for Hull try.'"
Jury out for me on Handley. We lack pace on the wings and we are most definitely light upfront with no Ava
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| Problem for Hulls try was that Handley was neither on top of Naulongo when he got the ball, or in the defensive line, so was caught in no mans land. Hurrell then showed his biggest weakness which is lateral movement. It was a good try.
We look a bit unfit to be honest?
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| Hull FC look too big in the pack for us. And have too much pace outside. Newman or Handley arent great on the wing. Sutcliffe very average at centre too. We look better than last year though but definitely look 2 or 3 good players short of top 5
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