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| Quote ="chubbs1981"I guess the bnp have got one vote already! If u think it's accetable to abuse someone about a set characteristic whilst they are going about earning a living. how about you walk into a shop and racially abuse an asian guy and see how far u get in court when saying it's not the British way he should take it on the chin. You bigoted retarded pillock!'"
ive personally copped heaps of racism, and most of the time i just stuck up for myself
im not sure thomas is fit to be a RL player with his attitude
as ive said before, players have continued with broken jaws and arms
if you cant handle name calling, id suggest to him hes too soft for league
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| or look at ian roberts as how to act.
the problem with thomas is hes been coddled in union
they dont boo opposition kickers there so im sure hes not used to it
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| Quote ="dally messenger"or look at ian roberts as how to act.
the problem with thomas is hes been coddled in union
they dont boo opposition kickers there so im sure hes not used to it'"
Let it go sweetcheeks
Alfie is big enough to look after himself.
How did your night with Ian Roberts go down the Sheaf?
It takes a brave man to 'come out' on a forum Dally.
Barry McKenzie salutes you
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Let it go sweetcheeks
Alfie is big enough to look after himself.
How did your night with Ian Roberts go down the Sheaf?
It takes a brave man to 'come out' on a forum Dally.
Barry McKenzie salutes you'"
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| Barry McKenzie firmly believes that what people do in their private lives is their own affair.
But I naturally assumed that 'Dally Messenger' was referring to when he was the worst boxer in Yorkshire when he kept saying how he kept getting [ipummelled in the ring[/i
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Barry McKenzie firmly believes that what people do in their private lives is their own affair.
But I naturally assumed that 'Dally Messenger' was referring to when he was the worst boxer in Yorkshire when he kept saying how he kept getting [ipummelled in the ring[/i
Clearly not.'"
Very funny Barry,even for you.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"ive personally copped heaps of racism, and most of the time i just stuck up for myself
im not sure thomas is fit to be a RL player with his attitude
as ive said before, [uplayers have continued with broken jaws and arms[/u
if you cant handle name calling, id suggest to him hes too soft for league'"
What are you trying to get at or are you saying the fans were chanting about the broken arm?
This isn't about being PC or not surely it's wrong to mock someone's sexuality?
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| The castleford club should be disbanded, the chanters hung drawn and quartered and the town bombed.
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| Quote ="back to back to back"The castleford club should be disbanded, the chanters hung drawn and quartered and the town bombed.'"
But then porton down Wouldn't have anywhere to empty their petri dishes.
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| Some of the chants are in jest though. Abit of fun.
I mean do you think anyone get's cut up about the ''xxxxx is w*nker, is a w*nker''
I always remember this image of when brian noble was in charge at bradford and he was patrolling his troops warming up before the game then a huge chorus of ''BRIAN NOBLE IS A W*NKER, IS A W*NKER'' blasted out from the southstand and you could see a wry smile spread across nobles face as it happened. Most chants are just banter from the crowd.
At saints once leeds were playing and a huge chorus of ''YOU FAT B*STARD'' blasted out at ali lauititi and he just gave his belly a big pat and a rub. That's the way to deal with chants.
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| Breaking news....
Bears (calm down Dally Messenger, not those sort) do indeed defecate in the woods, fat dogs do indeed break wind and people from Wigan eat pies.
Gareth Thomas was always going to get homophobic chants from sections of the crowd. I would have been more surprised if it DIDN'T happen to be honest.
backtoback has got it right. The way to deal with terrace chants is to laugh them off.
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Let it go sweetcheeks
Alfie is big enough to look after himself.
How did your night with Ian Roberts go down the Sheaf?
It takes a brave man to 'come out' on a forum Dally.
Barry McKenzie salutes you'"
be brave enough to admit you arent an aussie then!
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| Quote ="Traffic"What are you trying to get at or are you saying the fans were chanting about the broken arm?
This isn't about being PC or not surely it's wrong to mock someone's sexuality?'"
if he cant handle a bit of critisism from away fans hes not fit for RL.
RL players are tough, they play with pain
if a bit of name calling hurts him, go and play a different sport
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| Quote ="back to back to back"Some of the chants are in jest though. Abit of fun.
I mean do you think anyone get's cut up about the ''xxxxx is w*nker, is a w*nker''
I always remember this image of when brian noble was in charge at bradford and he was patrolling his troops warming up before the game then a huge chorus of ''BRIAN NOBLE IS A W*NKER, IS A W*NKER'' blasted out from the southstand and you could see a wry smile spread across nobles face as it happened. Most chants are just banter from the crowd.
At saints once leeds were playing and a huge chorus of ''YOU FAT B*STARD'' blasted out at ali lauititi and he just gave his belly a big pat and a rub. That's the way to deal with chants.'"
Must admit it would be very funny to see Alfie give the crowd the old tongue-in-cheek blowjob action in reply.
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| Quote ="back to back to back"Some of the chants are in jest though. Abit of fun.
At saints once leeds were playing and a huge chorus of ''YOU FAT B*STARD'' blasted out at ali lauititi and he just gave his belly a big pat and a rub. That's the way to deal with chants.'"
so how exactly would alfie do this? should he have dragged a bloke out of the cas stand and bent him over the advertising board? That would certainly stop the chants
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| how has thomas form been?
is he adapting to the new game yet.
or is he a failure?
how many minutes does he average?
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| Quote ="Cronus"Must admit it would be very funny to see Alfie give the crowd the old tongue-in-cheek blowjob action in reply.
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And you get the feeling those giving it, wouldn't be able to take it back in that case. For the want of a better phrase!
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| I reckon some clubs have a lower standard of moron following them than others.
Mind you they are so dumb they don't even realise just how thick they really are.
They see stupidity as a prize asset because their standard of success is hanging to the coat tails of others and saying "we" a lot.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"if he cant handle a bit of critisism from away fans hes not fit for RL.
RL players are tough, they play with pain
if a bit of name calling hurts him, go and play a different sport'"
Are you really trying to call it criticism. Do you know the difference between abuse and criticism or are you trying to be obtuse?
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| Quote ="Traffic"Are you really trying to call it criticism. Do you know the difference between abuse and criticism or are you trying to be obtuse?'"
abuse huh?
poor guy, im sure when he came out he expected everyone to pat him on the back
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| Quote ="dally messenger"abuse huh?
poor guy, im sure when he came out he expected everyone to pat him on the back'"
So what would you call it then? Or has the fact a gay man is playing League spoilt your idealistic little world of how RL should be i.e. only played by tough men and if they can't take whatever abuse neanderthal fans feel like hurling at them they shouldn't take to the pitch. And yes he should get a pat on the back as it then shows up small minded people for who they really are i.e. you
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| Quote ="Traffic"So what would you call it then? Or has the fact a gay man is playing League spoilt your idealistic little world of how RL should be i.e. only played by tough men and if they can't take whatever abuse neanderthal fans feel like hurling at them they shouldn't take to the pitch. And yes he should get a pat on the back as it then shows up small minded people for who they really are i.e. you'"
high profile person admits hes gay
high profile persons plays a competitive game with passionate fans
said fans point out that he is indeed gay
said person said hes hurt at this
shock horror.
yeah, when i think of RL players, i dont expect them to get "hurt" at this stuff
if he keeps up this attitude he wont be making it in league
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| Quote ="Traffic"Are you really trying to call it criticism. Do you know the difference between abuse and criticism or are you trying to be obtuse?'"
Dally is some sort of fifth columnist for RU . It is the only explanation i can find for many of his posts. he is just trying to make RL and RL supporters look bad.
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| Quote ="Scanners"I don't agree some are worse than others. I'd suggest it's simply that some are more of a cause celebre than others.'" then you're an idiot. There is no other way of explaining it. If you think its petty political correctness to know the difference between mild insults and offensive behaviour then you lack either integrity or empathy
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I think you are overplaying the issue in order to try and take the high ground. Homophobia as you call it isn't any bigger a problem, in terms of numbers of instances or in society overall than kids being picked on because of an aspect their appearance.
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Storm in a teacup. it's done it's been noted, move on and stop being so bloody high and mighty.'" like throwing bananas at black players is just a bit of ribbing, like monkey chants is just taking the mickey. That must also be perfectly acceptable, after all there is no hierarchy of offence and anyone finding such behaviour unacceptable should get of their high horse, apparently
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Meaningless to express frustration? That's a really poor cop out. If that's the case aren't the fans who chant these things as ignorant as those you are chastising for ribbing Thomas? Resorting to foul language and abuse is exactly the same ignorance as you say was directed at Thomas, but you somehow seem to think one is worse than the other.
Rank hypocrisy.'"
no, it isnt the same. When you are shouting w@nker at somebody, you are simply expressing your frustration, you arent really picking on them because they masturbate. You arent differentiating them because their lifestyle choice includes masturbation. In fact the dictionary recognises this, look it up you will see.
When you call somebody a faggot, you are picking on them because of a choice they have made in how they live their life. You are abusing something intrinsic about them. If you cant tell the difference between them, i not only pity you but the people around you
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