But he has missed 13 - so in reality he has actually made 87 tackles.

I have not said on this thread that Hindmarsh is not a good defender I am merely pointing out that your assertion that "Hindy hardly misses any tackles" is not backed up by fact.

My point that anyone who attempts as many tackles as he does will miss a few is bourne out by the stats.

Now please show us the stats backing up your claim that half backs in the NRL make 30 tackles a game.

Finch wasn't the one who played game one when somebody pulled out scored a late drop failed to gain selection in game 3 in favour of Barrett didn't play origin again until 2006 he played game 1, was so bad in game 2 he was replaced by Craig Gower - and hasn't featured since - so 3 games of Origin some player.

When was Smith's form any good - he has been poor for the last two years he was at the Eels and he has been ousted by an 18 year old kid at Wigan his form is that poor - his defence is laughable.

Really - well mister know-it-all come on and give us the stats about half back making 30 tackles - you can't because it simply doesn't happen - just admit you over cooked it like the majority of your posts and move on

so have you admitted you were a total idiot to make fun of hindys tackling given hes one of the best tacklers in the nrl.

1. finch kicked a winning field goal at origin

2. as i said above im pretty sure smith won the Dally M rookie of the year, his first year was brilliant, year 2 wasnt bad but alcohol problems wrecked it.

wrong on finch, wrong on smith, wrong on hindy.

hmmm

This site is poorer for some of the rubbish that swamps these threads.
There are posters that keep people away from this forum, I am almost there myself.

simple solution, if you dont like a thread, dont read it.

nobodies forcing you to poor dear.

and the bigger irony of your post is i started this thread.

You can't avoid it when you bring your trash into every thread and derail it

It's not so difficult. Ignore Dally and a couple more and you'll be right as rain

I take it Ellis will not be released for the mid season test against France. Hopefully he has a good season playing against those aussie internationals.

every thread i post on eh?

more BS

others say they can ignore it, it must just be the less knowledgeable posters who feel insecure

you not been banned yet?

You struggling to read or something? - what I said about Hindmarsh's tackling is exactly what the stats are saying - not sure what you are struggling to comprehend other than once again you have been proved wrong - in two games he has missed 13 tackles that is an average of over 6 a game - that does not support your claim that he hardly misses any tackles - so I am correct and you once again are wrong

Idiot - Finch has played three games of origin - the last of which was three years ago, Smith won the Dally M in 2005 - we are not talking about what these players were doing then we are talking about what these players are doing now - Smith is being kept out of a very poor Wigan side by an 18 year old rookie and Finch will only see origin if he were the last man standing. As for Hindmarsh see my earlier post

So I suggest that you are wrong on all three counts?

Now when are you going to give us the stats on the 30 tackles a game half backs?

good to see youve worked out finchy is an origin player.

well done

thats about the only sense in that post.

spud you are trolling another thread ive started.

oh the irony......





who's this 30 tackle a match 5/8th anyway?

spud because you dont have a sense of humour and are getting upset over this ill stop making fun of ER.

he can post whatever he likes about the nrl in this thread and you can agree with him

ill keep the laughter to myself and not make it public.

Gonna regret posting this. Hopefully these figures from the NRL's official stats people, Sportsdata will settle the inaccuracies posted when it comes to figures. Even the Canberra Times article is woefully wrong on Ellis.


Most tackles overall after 3 games: 1st. Hindmarsh 154, 7 missed, 9 ineffective

Ellis is 27th. with 86, 3 missed, 6 ineffective.


Half backs – Most tackles, Brett Kimmorley 74 (24.7 ave), 10 missed, 6 ineffective.
Chris Sandow FYI has missed 25 tackles already.


5/8th – Jarryd Hayne 67 tackles (22.3 ave), 3 missed, 5 ineffective
Matt Rogers has missed the most with 17.


So no halves at all at 30 tackles per game. Hindmarsh hasn't missed 13.

What is the difference between an ineffective tackle and a miss?

It is to somebody unable to comprehend simple english - I mentioned Finch's Origin record in my second post on the subject - do you really have issues with simple english? why not just calm down and answer some of the points rather than avoiding all the arguements - that is bit a difficult given your inability to read

im assuming a miss is when you fall off, an ineffective may be if you are first into the collison but are not able to stop the players momentum and require another man to come in

look id really like to point out all the mistakes you make but spud is getting upset at the whole situation so for his peace of mind ill let you say what you want.

i mean i get my info from watching the nrl and listening to experts like NRL on Fox.

poor spud gets advice from you.

I've always taken an ineffective tackle as being one where the attacking player gets an offload away. I don't know that for sure though.

154 tackles with 7 missed is an excellent statistic by any standard.