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| Quote Ruddy Duck="Ruddy Duck"Good luck to him after the way he has been treated by Wigan.'"
treated accordingly with behaviour....
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"Has he been treated any differently to any other player who isn't good enough to play first team rugby?'"
Was that your opinion when he was in the first team and playing well?
Amazing how a player suddenly becomes a bad player when he leaves or could be leaving!
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| Quote Ruddy Duck="Ruddy Duck"Was that your opinion when he was in the first team and playing well?
Amazing how a player suddenly becomes a bad player when he leaves or could be leaving!'"
He has only even played ok for me, he evidently brings as many problems as solutions and in my opinion which i said at the time he shouldn’t have been offered a new deal and i do wonder if the deal was already agreed(not announced)before we signed Zak.
Last season he was 3rd choice full back and 5th or 6th choice winger at best. And this year very simlar.
Its only the fact that we haven’t been able to off load him so far that he is still here. I have nowt against him at all but makes financial sense to get rid if/when possible. I hope he does well where ever he goes but not too well obviously.
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| Quote Ruddy Duck="Ruddy Duck"Was that your opinion when he was in the first team and playing well?
Amazing how a player suddenly becomes a bad player when he leaves or could be leaving!'"
I don't think he's a bad player and I've never said that. I don't think he's good enough for this current Wigan side though.
For me he's a squad player who's currently 3rd choice fullback, 4th/5th choice winger and 5th/6th choice halfback. Would you agree with that?
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"I don't think he's a bad player and I've never said that. I don't think he's good enough for this current Wigan side though.
For me he's a squad player who's currently 3rd choice fullback, 4th/5th choice winger and 5th/6th choice halfback. Would you agree with that?'"
true, hes a luxury we cant afford
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"I don't think he's a bad player and I've never said that. I don't think he's good enough for this current Wigan side though.
For me he's a squad player who's currently 3rd choice fullback, 4th/5th choice winger and 5th/6th choice halfback. Would you agree with that?'"
That’s a very fair assessment of him
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| Came in and did a lot better than I expected and due to injury took and earned his opportunity well.
It’s sometimes forgotten that we provided a lifeline for him as Catalans we’re trying to offload him due to his off field behaviour and the groups he was mixing with away from the club.
He played a pretty important role in our 2018 season and that should not be forgotten.
I don’t know what he is paid just see the rumours on here and I I’ve no idea what his attitude is like again just see comments on here.
What I would say that IF he is on as big a wage as is rumoured, fair play to him, that’s not his fault.
I’d also say at his age he needs to be playing regular first team rugby and there are only probably 2 or 3 clubs he can get that at in SL so a move to one makes sense for him.
Good luck to the lad I’ve no issue with him and I’m sure if he ends up at Salford he will be a decent fit for them due to his style and that of Evalds who he will be replacing.
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| Got an international fullback no good paying top dollar for a player who isn't Wigan class.
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"Has he been treated any differently to any other player who isn't good enough to play first team rugby?'"
Bet you and a few more were not saying that when he was the regular full back.
Some supporters are like the weather, always changing!
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| Quote Ruddy Duck="Ruddy Duck"Bet you and a few more were not saying that when he was the regular full back.
Some supporters are like the weather, always changing!'"
Well all my posts are on here to view, so fill your boots.
As I said... I don't think he's a bad player, but we have 2/3/4 players better in every position he plays.
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps" we have 2/3/4 players better in every position he plays.'"
Correct. Did well at the time but we have signed Zak and French since who are both better fullbacks
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"Well all my posts are on here to view, so fill your boots.
As I said... I don't think he's a bad player, but we have 2/3/4 players better in every position he plays.'"
Correct, but because Escare is now out of favour, there is no need for some supporters to be calling him names and making up wild tales about him.
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