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| This really has been a belter of a game. Good tries, good defense, big hits. Challenge cup is not dead
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| Quote ="dubairl"so because he threw 5 punches its a red? hmmm...'"
Well it's fair to consider that. 5 without connecting vs 2/3 connections? Not convinced myself.
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| so the RFL are supposed to be listening to the fans will they do the same with a bit of biff?
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| Big game and Leeds getting the big decisions AGAIN. It's 14 men against 12 here.
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| Sending off for a punch but just a penalty for Leuleui taking somebodys head off.
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| Ref has seen the players square up and warned them to cut it out. A player then throws about 6 punches and the ref is wrong to send him off???
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| Quote ="MOT"This really has been a belter of a game. Good tries, good defense, big hits. Challenge cup is not dead'"
Indeed, enjoying it. Shame Cudjoe doesn't have that extra bit of pace, giving a really good account of himself today!
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Ref has seen the players square up and warned them to cut it out. A player then throws about 6 punches and the ref is wrong to send him off???'"
ok so what was the difference with Danny Mcguire? he threw 1 elbow, upper cut followed by another 2 upper cuts.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Ref has seen the players square up and warned them to cut it out. A player then throws about 6 punches and the ref is wrong to send him off???'"
Not at all, just inconsistent.
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| Is it any wonder fans have/are falling out of love with game? The same old teams getting the same big decisions. The sport is a joke.
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| Quote ="dubairl"ok so what was the difference with Danny Mcguire? he threw 1 elbow, upper cut followed by another 2 upper cuts.'"
The Giants player went into McGuire's head with his knee. That was the major difference.
McGuire got his handed to him in the melee after.
It was difficult to see what sparked the Giants player's anger for the red card. But they were squared up when the referee called them to call them down. He then made a clear decision to just start punching without any reply from Leeds.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"The Giants player went into McGuire's head with his knee. That was the major difference.
McGuire got his booty handed to him in the melee after.
It was difficult to see what sparked the Giants player's anger for the red card. But they were squared up when the referee called them to call them down. He then made a clear decision to just start punching without any reply from Leeds.'"
Carl ablett constantly pushing out at the tacklers and giving a gob full is what sparked joe wardel off, if he doesn't like being tackled and likes to play hand bags football might be more to he's liking. I don't believe little scraps should be sending off's but if your going to send people off you have to do it consistently.
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| There is a world of difference between the two incidents your anti Leeds bias is getting in the way.
The McGuire incident involved a knee to the head, McGuire reacted, cudjoe reacted penalty could have gone either way.
The Albert incident was a bit of hanbags at 5 paces ref shouts to them to walk away, wardall throws clear punches to the head, I'm not sure the ref had a choice to be honest
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"Is it any wonder fans have/are falling out of love with game? The same old teams getting the same big decisions. The sport is a joke.'"
Are you deliberately trying to get on RLmeltdown?
What big decisions? Wardal was an idiot not the ref
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| Ablett not Albert stupid iPhone predictive text
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| Quote ="dubairl"Carl ablett constantly pushing out at the tacklers and giving a gob full is what sparked joe wardel off, if he doesn't like being tackled and likes to play hand bags football might be more to he's liking. I don't believe little scraps should be sending off's but if your going to send people off you have to do it consistently.'"
McGuire was involved in a little scrap. Both players were throwing punches. McGuire clearly came out second best.
Wardell wasn't involved in a little scrap. He decided to throw 5 punches without reply after being told by the ref to calm down.
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| Quote ="christopher"There is a world of difference between the two incidents your anti Leeds bias is getting in the way.
The McGuire incident involved a knee to the head, McGuire reacted, cudjoe reacted penalty could have gone either way.
The Albert incident was a bit of hanbags at 5 paces ref shouts to them to walk away, wardall throws clear punches to the head, I'm not sure the ref had a choice to be honest'"
so what your saying is Mcguire lashed out with an elbow and punches to something accidental and still got the penalty with no card being shown to him? for the 2nd week on the trot as well. Im not saying under the current rules Wardel shouldn't have been sent off, but so should Mcguire if your going to red card players for punching.
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| How do you know it was accudental knee to the head, or more to the point how did McGuire know he lashed out and there was a scuffle, maybe a sin bin for both players at worst. The wardal incident was totally different.
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| Yep if Wardel walked then so should Maguire.
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| Red button - Looks like Wardle responded to a couple of knees to the head too.
Thoughts on that now? FWIW I though McGuire earned himself a yellow and Wardle a red
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| Quote ="Bovrick"Red button - Looks like Wardle responded to a couple of knees to the head too.
Thoughts on that now? FWIW I though McGuire earned himself a yellow and Wardle a red'"
He responded pretty late then, and after the red had told him to walk away.
The incidents just aren't comparable.
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| Quote ="christopher"He responded pretty late then, and after the red had told him to walk away.
The incidents just aren't comparable.'"
I just don't agree that the response of the victim (Ablett/Cudjoe) should be as important as it seems to be at the moment. No retaliation gives a red to the aggressor, retaliation varies from winning yourself a penalty to yellows each way.
Neither of McGuire or Wardle had any justification for throwing the punches.
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| Quote ="Bovrick"Red button - Looks like Wardle responded to a couple of knees to the head too.
Thoughts on that now? FWIW I though McGuire earned himself a yellow and Wardle a red'"
Fair enough if he also took a knee to the head.
But to get up, square up to the opponent, be told by the ref to walk away and THEN throw punches while your opponent does nothing was completely different to what happened with McGuire.
You say say McGuire should have got a yellow and Wardle a red. What about Cudjoe? He beat the crap out of McGuire.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"What about Cudjoe? He beat the crap out of McGuire.'"
Possibly a yellow, but he was actually being attacked unlike McGuire and Wardle. He had a decent reason to defend himself.
Old news now, hopefully McGuire's punches are picked up properly in the match review, not much more to it really.
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| A fair bit of anti-McGuire bias on this thread, mainly from Wigan fans. Why not look at the positives of an excellent game with a decent crowd and atmosphere? some RL fans can't see beyond the end of their nose.
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