What you mean like Halifax fans have been visiting Wrexham , telling people not to attend ? , so it's our fault they don't have enough support to finance a SL club ?

What we post on here has no actual effect on any clubs support or financial performance

Jeeez you're more boring than i could ever imagine!! I favour ONE team!! HULL FC..... But i don't wish any team to have to go through that today and you should count yourself very lucky that you don't have to!! You may get your crack at Superleague and IF it goes wrong for you, you will get the same response from the RL community, but the way you are acting it's more a case of 'you wouldn't be missed'....

It did go wrong , we didn't get any sympathy , we were just told the truth , our club wasn't good enough , the same applies to the Crusaders , their club isn't good enough , it isn't rocket surgery

You think thats good, you should have seen the send off chris Hill got on saturday at the LSV before his move to Warrington and his subsiquent assault on sl for the next 6 years.

oh wow!! did they open a third stand for him then?

Hmm. Point proven.

Do you know how much opening a third stand costs

no chance of that mate.
In fact we could do with some away support for that to happen,Widnes excepted of course.

tongue in cheek, ever heard of that?

small but committed set of fans, shame to lose them. Have the RFL learnt anything I wonder?

What a load of hypocrites, how condescending is this? What did the super league clubs and community do to save this "essential" RFL experiment? (Remember the vote to keep Harlequins in SL?) Nothing! Why? Cos we are alright Jack!

And who are the real idiots here? The ones who saw this coming, due to the RFL's ridiculous policy that forced super league on a club not ready, or those who believed the rhetoric coming out of Red Hall? Would you have said the same thing to Wakefield fans had they been kicked out of super league, because, make no mistake, this would also have happened to them. There are other clubs out there who are also suffering because of the RFL's policy but most of you cant see it eh?

And Headhunter, you type some nonsense when you can get your hands out of the straight jacket, but to blame "flatcappers", who really couldnt give a rat's ass either way for the crusaders is up there amongst your classics! The reason for this is poor management of the sport by the RFL.

And no, this is not about my club not getting into SL - i'd rather see us being competitive as we are now than bumping along the bottom.

What is happening to the crusaders is very, very sad. As is is to every club. We should be doing all we can to stop it, not commiserating everyone after it has all happened

Please, please, please dont lumber us with them in the Championship. Theres enough teams that dont bring any support without adding another. They are a failure and as such should probably be put in the summer conference or whatever it is.

I was there as a neutral and it was a little bit bizzare.

I only hope they can continue in the league below or one below that, I genuinely think many of those would turn up again and if they got half that many, that would be a very good championship average

Yeah, but I'm not sure you know what it is.

Posted in the thread "proud" about the great community spirit active in rugby league. You'll forgive me for being a tad cynical about that.

Agree 100% people are too easy to write Crusaders and Wrexham off as a disaster but there are people who have been won over in the area and give them a side to support and a say in the running of the club and it could be an exciting time ahead.

It is easier said than done but lets hope someone takes the bull by the horns and gets the wheels in motion. I think 1,500 is a reasonable target average and if the University will rent the ground accordingly to any new club and players are paid within those sort of constraints then bring it on.

that was just aimed at starbug personally, his one eyed views against crusaders from the moment they came into the game has been nothing but negative

You were contributing to a vein in a thread which was far from just a personal attack.

I've been in a crowd of a club already relegated, the community spirit involved fans singing "going down" but none of this. I'm not saying it wasn't admirable, but we've seen a taste of the modern rugby league spirit on here since. People feel sorry for the crusaders in a way they wouldnt if it was a Wakefield or a Leigh. When you take into account that this comes across as sycophancy.

And let's not make any mistake, they're not in this position because of politics or cynical fans like starbug or "The RFL" who have been incredulously been blamed. They're in it because in spite of the RFL giving them all the help they could muster including aiding them to sign illegal Australian players, they were thrown in far too early on the basis of several porkies and a dodgy owner.

Quote ="number 6"that was just aimed at starbug personally, his one eyed views against crusaders from the moment they came into the game has been nothing but negative'" You mean like the posts i made in this thread ? viewtopic.php?f=2&t=503459 I would say they are mostly constructive , rather than bitter or ' one eyed ' ?

Quote ="number 6"that was just aimed at starbug personally, his one eyed views against crusaders from the moment they came into the game has been nothing but negative'" You mean like the posts i made in this thread ? viewtopic.php?f=2&t=503459 I would say they are mostly constructive , rather than bitter or ' one eyed ' ?

See now they're in the same regionish then I agree by the quota restrictions etc however having a brand new team playing out of south wales, it was always going to be incredibly difficult to attract northern based players.
While we're on the subject of quotas Halifax flaunt it ridiculously, why are you so down on the Cru, I think it was a year or two ago fax were 5 players over the quota

Were they really? Really? So they got sanctioned by the RFL, or did you forget to tell them? And these imports were all working illegally? See how it works?

Why you so down on Halifax? They steal your sweeties?

Im not at all, I think they should have been promoted a few weeks ago.
But before we all start harping on about quota dodging there's plenty of it done by the heartland clubs too and for much less reason

Rugby League didnt fail in North Wales it was the owners that failed Rugby League in North Wales.

It does have an affect on how they build an RL community, with people like you death riding their club and gloating at the 'vindication' of their demise its no surprise people arent falling over themselves to get involved.

Such a shame for the club. Just shows how the game is run by money.

Thanks for the memories Crusaders players/staff and fans.

You have too high of an opinion of flatcappers. You really think a few comments on a tiny forum can influence people's decision to support/not support a club? Come om Smokey, you can do better than that. Time for one of your massive posts to pull this one out of the crapper.

, you really crack me up , don't talk utter bollox , no gloating , what's this ' death riding ' rubbish ? , it telling it as it is , you want to try it sometime